CBGB Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Pretty good performance today, shame we don't have the cutting edge to take all 3 points. Have to say, I much prefer Clark as a central midfielder than as a defender. He can tackle well and has an eye for a great pass; OK one or two went astray, but basically it really helps to have two players who can both tackle and know what to do with the ball in the centre of the park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexicon Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Stoke set out to defend hard and try and nick the winner from a set piece - we were unimpressive but were stifled hard and still came out the better of the two teams. The bottom line is that I cant argue with the result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 didn't give us a prayer tonight, so a point was a decent result. thought our passing was better, particularly in the first half, thought we made a decent account of ourselves....however the game was there for taking so the belief is still not back properly. thought cuellar did well and Guzan had another steady game. not sure how they can afford to leave carlos out. ps Its not our business to worry about the form or team selection of the opposition its up to us to challenge whats in front of us. pps when we get battered the opposition don't say " Villa were poor tonight, we'rnt they" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chappy Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Quick point about Shotton, is it allowed to have a towel sewn into your shirt to dry the ball with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Seeing as our last couple of goals all came from set pieces, i thought this game was going to be a stinker. We defended well against a team who make set pieces look easy. It don't matter though. I see it as a good 1 point, but others still moan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponky Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 I was pleased with the effort, the application needs more work though. Albrighton's crossing was pretty off today and we lost a great deal of impetus for that. Was gutted for Fonz that the toe-poke was well-saved. Petrov, N'Zogbia, Cuellar, Clark, Gabby and Guzan our best today. As others have said Stoke away is a very tough gig. We were lucky to get away with that line clearance but other than that we dealt with their set pieces well and were the better team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bose Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 On paper it's a good point but Stoke were very poor and offered no attacking threat at all yet we didn't take advantage at all and McLeish seemed very happy with the point. Guzan - 6 - never threatened but always seems calm and composed Cuellar - 7 - Kept things nice and simple and was assured in defence. Collins - 5 - Still hoofs the ball far too much and nearly cost us a goal in the first half Dunne - 7 - Never troubled and calm on the ball Warnock - 6 - Shotton is shit so he didn't have to do much Albrighton - 5 - Poor game and he looked disinterested. Clark - 6 - Either brilliant or terrible. Needs more consistency. Petrov - 8 - Our best player but the lack of movement of the attacking players hindered him. Won quite a few tackles and as usual gave his all. N'Zogbia - 6 - Tried but it wasn't enough. Had a good shot in the second half and he's looking better with every game. Heskey - 7 - Poor at the very start but he won some good headers after that and I though he played pretty decently after that. Gabby - 7 - Made some good runs and he set up Delfouneso brilliantly in the second half. Seems frustrated by the way we play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidlewis Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Clark Guzan dunne and Cuellar all did well today. Wasn't impressed with Nzog end product v poor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgoth Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Boring, but with Milner, Ash and MON we lost. with Ginger took a point. It's important in the battle of relegation and stay is our goal. Don't forget about it. Delfouneso is not a prospect. Old, future and slow Heskey did more than this talented, sharp future. Guzan too short. His outs from the line were terryfying. Gabby MOM - save us and have almost an assist but Delfouneso can't run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parisvilla Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Clark - 6 - Either brilliant or terrible. Needs more consistency. Yet you've given him a solid mark? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rendelc Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Happy with the back 4 today. Cuellar must start instead of Hutton ! Midfield done okay . Zog needs a goal to kickstart his season . Still worried though. If we dont start scoring we dont get points and then we get relegated. Also our 'shooting ' from distance is sunday morning standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanky Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Guzan too short. His outs from the line were terryfying. Dealt with everything thrown his way bar one error. EDIT: Added to the fact he is 6 foot 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bose Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Clark - 6 - Either brilliant or terrible. Needs more consistency. Yet you've given him a solid mark? Typo, should be a 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumstopdogs Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 A poor game rightly shown as the final match on MOTD. The liability Collins still made mistakes for most of Stoke's chances. Emily Heskey surprise surprise still didn't score. 9 league goals in 78 matches for Villa says it all. Shocking match, shocking manager. Mcleish has to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keefa3011 Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 I'll happily take a point at Stoke with the form they've been in (City game apart). Albrighton was utter gash though, and should have been subbed for Bannan with half an hour left. I'd have moved Nzogbia over to the right, Gabby out to the left and had wee Barry pulling the strings in the middle with Petrov. Thought the Fonz did okay against one of the most physical back lines around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted December 27, 2011 VT Supporter Share Posted December 27, 2011 Guzan too short. His outs from the line were terryfying. Dealt with everything thrown his way bar one error. EDIT: Added to the fact he is 6 foot 4.This. I'm liking The New Big Brad more and more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 So we get a point at Stoke, which is not exactly an easy task for anyone, and loads just say "It's because they were shit. We should've won". Collins, Dunne and co. dealt with pretty much everything they threw at us and we actually had some good posession. We made them look bad and without ideas. But no, it's Villa with AMc as manager, so obviously the only way the opposition can possibly not be at their best is if they are having a bad day, clearly it has absoloutely nothing to do with us. Laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CottenM Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Surprised (and yet, not that surprised) by all the negativity early on in the thread, personally I thought it was a good hard working display against a horrible Stoke side. We had a better amount of possesion but still lacking a final ball, or someone willing to gamble. Probably a confidence issue right now. Strong display from Gabby, Petrov and I think Cueller may have played himself into a regular full back spot there. For me Clark struggled, didn't look like he wanted the ball although he defends well, and Fonz just doesnt do enough. Bannan or Ireland should have come on for 10 mins to try and turn 1 into 3 points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Fair play got an unexpected point when I fully anticipated a defeat poor game though two poor sides and it safdens me greatly that I am happy we got away without losing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted December 27, 2011 Share Posted December 27, 2011 Fair play got an unexpected point when I fully anticipated a defeat poor game though two poor sides and it safdens me greatly that I am happy we got away without losing stoke are a tough side to play against though richard especially at home, i'd take a point from that fixture every time although it could've been 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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