Jimmy Savile And Other Paedophiles

[Baselayers]

Wow imagine if all the people he supposedly supplied children too name's get out too now. That would blow up big style!

[hogso]

Has that gastly women who believed herself to be his love child made any comments since this has emerged? I believe her mother was quite young when she fell pregnant with Savile's supposed child, but she wasnt under 16.

[rjw63]

Wow imagine if all the people he supposedly supplied children too name's get out too now. That would blow up big style!

Your grammar has deteriorated markedly, Nakedsnowboarder.

Hmmmm

[snowychap]

I find it worse than slightly worrying that people are running around ready to give Savile the Cromwell treatment based on the one sided revelations in a documentary.

Well, it's not just that now.

Every news agency I see is putting forward every single person's allegations as fact - not merely as convincing evidence.

If each one of the avalanche of allegations (or, rather, a significant number) is true then we shouldn't be that worried about Jimmy Savile (he's dead and gone) but about the world that allowed him to act in that way and how much of that world still exists.

[peterms]

Well, it's not just that now.

Every news agency I see is putting forward every single person's allegations as fact - not merely as convincing evidence.

If each one of the avalanche of allegations (or, rather, a significant number) is true then we shouldn't be that worried about Jimmy Savile (he's dead and gone) but about the world that allowed him to act in that way and how much of that world still exists.

That's exactly right. And the answer is, that world still largely exists.

Savile's contribution, if you can call it that, is showing that looking the other way in the face of sexual exploitation is now democratised. No longer does the Lord of the Manor get droit de seigneur - it is open to anyone with the right connections, wealth, cover, and power. Even a semiliterate dick from Leeds can fill that role. We now seem to worship "celebrity", whatever that is supposed to mean. How far we have come, in our long journey from the Stone Age.

[peterms]

More Sadowitz on Savile, this time from a year ago. Not a great recording, and obviously nsfw.

[peterms]

Quite astonishing. Edwina Currie interviewed here (at 46 mins, and at greater length from 1hr 8 mins) trying to distance herself from her role in letting Savile take a position of responsibility at Broadmoor.

Says he was "self-appointed"! Yes, of course. Members of the public routinely appoint themselves to roles in high security hospitals, I'm sure.

But she reassures us that if she had known he was systematically molesting children, she would have "raised Cain". In fact, she assures us of this at three separate points in the interview. Well, that's a relief. The Minister of Health would not have ignored it if she had only been told that a paedophile rapist was running amok in institutions for which she was responsible. That's certainly cleared up a question in my mind.

[Chindie]

HIGNFY last night made reference to this whole debacle, and specifically the alleged transcript, which of course they confirmed was a fake. Ian Hislop had some interesting comments.

[VillaGoMarching]

Heard someone on FiveLive saying he was trying to get an article published before Xmas which exposed Saville and 2 others (still alive), but it got rejected by all main outlets, finally got produced by a magazine called 'the oldie' in February,

Which begs the question, why has so little been done till now

Also interesting who the other two presenters were that were involed with this sort of thing.

[villaajax]

Heard someone on FiveLive saying he was trying to get an article published before Xmas which exposed Saville and 2 others (still alive), but it got rejected by all main outlets, finally got produced by a magazine called 'the oldie' in February,

Which begs the question, why has so little been done till now

Also interesting who the other two presenters were that were involed with this sort of thing.

I did hear a certain magician's name mentioned, though there is a lot of finger pointing going on at the moment so who knows.

[mjmooney]

I did hear a certain magician's name mentioned, though there is a lot of finger pointing going on at the moment so who knows.

OMG! Gandalf was a paedo???

[KHV]

Well, it's not just that now.

Every news agency I see is putting forward every single person's allegations as fact - not merely as convincing evidence.

If each one of the avalanche of allegations (or, rather, a significant number) is true then we shouldn't be that worried about Jimmy Savile (he's dead and gone) but about the world that allowed him to act in that way and how much of that world still exists.

Nobody can prove anything though. There is no evidence its all just allegations many of which are from years ago. Sadly this has all come too late and we will never know the truth.

[mjmooney]

Nobody can prove anything though. There is no evidence its all just allegations many of which are from years ago. Sadly this has all come too late and we will never know the truth.

Don't see that. The only difference from a "normal" case is that Savile isn't here to defend himself. But if he was, and he just blanket denied everything, the courts would still be able to make a decision, based on all the available evidence. As they can now.

And as Snowy says, it's not just about Savile, it's about all those associated with him, who are alive and answerable.

[markeefc]

Don't see that. The only difference from a "normal" case is that Savile isn't here to defend himself. But if he was, and he just blanket denied everything, the courts would still be able to make a decision, based on all the available evidence. As they can now.

And as Snowy says, it's not just about Savile, it's about all those associated with him, who are alive and answerable.

This is the one thing that I am really uncomfortable about in all this. If Saville was alive, the Police would not be allowed to say that he was a predatory sex offender, nor would the press be able to print untested allegation after untested allegation, until those allegations had been tested in a court of law.

While I believe that Saville probably did abuse his position, as many in the pop industry have done in the past, I still find it uncomfortable that without completing any investigation and from what I am aware, not actually having any evidence to go on, other than what people are now saying some decades after the event, that the Police, Politicians and the Press can say and print things that can not be challenged by Saville. I am not defending his alledged actions, but it just does not sit right with me.

The suspicious half of me, thinks that some people are doing an awful lot of shouting to hide any complicity they had in all of this, such as the BBC guy the other day who said he raised it with Saville but believed what he was told without taking it further, It smells like a lot of people covered in shite trying to cover their own backs.

[BOF]

An interesting read; as is the Irvine Welsh link contained within.

Savile de Rais: Jimmy Savile, Serial Killing and High Weirdness

Above is a picture of Jimmy Savile with the prolific serial killer Peter Sutcliffe—aka the Yorkshire Ripper—and boxer Frank Bruno. Savile, who apparently befriended the necrophiliac murderer Sutcliffe through the his enigmatic “volunteer” work at Broadmoor (a high security psychiatric hospital), is introducing the two men, who appear to be sharing what looks a lot like a Masonic handshake.

What the ****?

The more I read about Savile (I’ve already written about his probable necrophilia) the weirder it gets. There is something literally legendary about him – to me Savile increasingly looks like some kind of latter-day Gilles de Rais, the profligate aristocrat, pedophile and black magician who rode into battle alongside Joan of Arc and was later convicted for the deaths of over five hundred children.

What might Savile have to do with dead children? We’ll get to that. But first let’s look at the evidence that suggests he may have been… a spy (or spymaster).

Don’t take my whacky word for it! Let us instead refer to a 2008 Daily Mail article that began with the sentence “Deep cover is not the phrase which springs to mind when you meet Jimmy Savile,” before going on to consider what credibility there was in the following assertion made by Savile himself.

“I guess I am like Forrest Gump (…) I am like a sewing machine needle that goes in here and goes in there, but I am also the eminence grise: the grey, shadowy figure in the background. The thing about me is I get things done and I work under cover.”

Although the article goes on to tentatively soften some of Savile’s remarkable claims to world historical prestige, all are left pretty much intact. They include Savile’s extremely intimate friendships with successive UK Prime Ministers (including “11 consecutive Christmases at Chequers” with Margaret Thatcher) and several very high profile British royals – Princess Diana actually referred to Savile as “a sort of mentor for Charles” (nice) – and the fact that Savile “spent an afternoon entertaining the wives of the G7 leaders back in 1991 at John Major’s invitation.” (What did he regale them with? Tales of Broadmoor high-jinx with the Yorkshire Ripper?)

Beside Savile’s remarkable ability to insinuate himself at Chequers and Buckingham Palace, we can also chalk up the apparent ease with which the Catholic and enthusiastic Zionist strolled into the corridors of power in Israel, which he visited to record a 1975 Jim’ll Fix It (the following incredible anecdote is corroborated by Savile’s BBC producer Roger Ordish):

“I arrived at this reception and I was wearing a pinkish suit with short sleeves. When President Ephraim Katzir came to me, he asked how I was enjoying my visit to Israel.I said I was very disappointed: the Israelis had won the Six Day War but they had given back all the land, including the only oil well in the region, and were now paying the Egyptians more for oil than if they had bought it from Saudi Arabia. I said: ‘You have forgotten to be Jewish’. He said: ‘Would you like to tell my cabinet that? ‘Next morning, I went to the Knesset and they interrupted a cabinet meeting and I told them the same as I had told him.”

Strange privileges and experiences for a mere TV presenter don’t you think? A TV presenter, furthermore, who appeared to have endeavored to commit at least one sex crime every day of his adult life, while remaining blissfully immune to prosecution or even arrest…

Which brings us – reluctantly – to the shadow of dead children. Savile, notoriously, was photographed at Jersey’s infamous Haut de la Garenne children’s home (and is said to have been “named several times” by abuse survivors there). As many are aware, Haut de la Garenne is very frequently alleged to be the scene of one of history’s biggest cover-ups. To cut a long and exceedingly depressing story short, children’s body-parts and an apparent torture chamber beneath the orphanage were overnight reclassified as harmless bits-and-bobs a few days after embattled investigators – who had been regularly complaining of institutional hostility and interference – were replaced at the behest of Jersey’s authorities. Proceeding this, some of the abuse allegations were halfheartedly pursued, but many investigators and journalists feel that the real and unimaginable depths of the story – depths purportedly dark enough to bring down entire governments – were sealed up.

Well, it is possible that the universe does not favor alleged institutional child abuse after all. “Foul deeds will rise, Though all the earth o’erwhelm them, to men’s eyes,” as Shakespeare put it, and the manner in which these (alleged) foul deeds have risen back up is fascinating. In short, hardly an article has been penned on Savile these last weeks that has not been adorned with the aforementioned photographic evidence of his visit to Haut de la Garenne: the image is like some stubborn morsel of something the mainstream media was long since instructed to digest. For doesn’t Savile’s very presence at Haut de la Garenne give immense credence to the allegations that there has been a cover-up there, not to mention the wide whispers that extremely prominent members of British and Jersey society regularly “visited” the place?

Then there is the longstanding allegation that Savile procured boys from Jersey orphanages for former British Prime Minister Edward Heath to rape and molest on the latter’s yacht. A month ago that would have looked like an extremely wild conspiracy theory. But now…

Savile was a Knight of the Crown, a Knight of the Vatican, a (probable) necrophiliac, a pedophile, the buddy of serial killers and future kings, a children’s TV presenter, a pop mogul and many more things besides… has there ever been a stranger Englishman? It would appear that when Savile died his considerable protection died with him, and the establishment are happy for him to now suffer public and relentless vilification. But his activities, place and prominence in British society is so strange, so sinister, that it is a like a chink in the armor of the very establishment that’s allowing his corpse to fend for itself, and through this chink some pretty astonishing things can be glimpsed.

[Chindie]

I also believe he was a reptilian space nazi.

[Brumerican]

The Freemason stuff is plausible . He was buried at a 45 degree angle which is very Masonic .

[Chindie]

But the Freemason stuff is also pretty much entirely benign. The Masons, despite all the ooga booga rumours, are a remarkably dull group of people who just happen to a have a club.

[peterms]

But the Freemason stuff is also pretty much entirely benign. The Masons, despite all the ooga booga rumours, are a remarkably dull group of people who just happen to a have a club.

...a club which is dedicated to their personal advancement by means of giving preference to other freemasons in employment, the awarding of contracts and so on. That's not benign. A better word is corrupt.

[GarethRDR]

I also believe he was a reptilian space nazi.