bickster Posted February 24, 2020 Moderator Share Posted February 24, 2020 1 minute ago, bannedfromHandV said: They’re one and the same thing I’d think from an overall budgeting perspective, I don’t think the online piece will carry much in terms of running costs (could be wrong) whereas the print side has a lot of infrastructure in place. I really can't claim to know about the Scum but I do know that the Heil online has a massive budget and specialist staff as a mate of mine worked for them as a photo editor for a few years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, bickster said: I really can't claim to know about the Scum but I do know that the Heil online has a massive budget and specialist staff as a mate of mine worked for them as a photo editor for a few years Paedos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted February 24, 2020 Moderator Share Posted February 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: Paedos? Could be, though my mate is an Iranian exile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted March 1, 2020 Moderator Share Posted March 1, 2020 Quote Interesting, this. The Sun's "Assistant Foreign Editor" Rebecca Husselbee - @rjhusselbee on Twitter - has suddenly locked her Twitter account. This has occurred after, we are told, The Sun miraculously ''discovered'' her racist social media posts - and her connection to, and support for Far Right Street Thugs Britain First. Her boyfriend Arden is an activist for them, and her father Steve Husselbee is the Midlands Regional Organiser. Far Right Watch And they must have known when they hired her. FRW outed her over a year ago in her previous job with a news agency that was supplying content to the Heil and the Mirror 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 During the election campaign, Tom Newton Dunn - the Sun's political editor - put out a bizarre, conspiracy-theory style 'network analysis' of people connected to the Labour leadership, which subsequently turned out to have been largely sourced from neo-Nazi websites, and he has faced no apparent professional consequences whatsoever for that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Quote The Murdoch media’s China coronavirus conspiracy has one aim: get Trump re-elected News Corp is campaigning full-bore for the US president, with reports of a Wuhan lab ‘intelligence’ dossier being seeded across its empire... ... The invasion of Iraq in March 2003 casts a long shadow. Hundreds of thousands of people were killed, first in the invasion, then the ensuing chaos, then in the rise and fall of Islamic State. It strengthened Iran’s hand in both Iraq and Syria. It contributed to a massive outflow of refugees across the world, a factor in the resurgence of the far right across Europe. And Washington has spent nearly two decades trapped in a Middle Eastern mess of its own making, diverting much of its attention from China’s regional and global rise. Lies were reported as facts. Credible sceptics were downplayed, ignored or attacked as unpatriotic “appeasers”. The thrill of landing a big “story” overtook the media’s fundamental duty to prevent the public from being deceived. Journalists who believed they were muscling up to a looming security threat turned out to be working instead against their own countries’ long-term interests. And in all this the Murdoch media were leading the pack across the anglosphere as the unrelenting cheerleaders for war – and vilifying those, like me, who opposed it... ... we suddenly have a unilateral declaration by the US president and his secretary of state that the body of evidence overwhelmingly points to the virus having leaked from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, where research projects have been under way into various categories of coronavirus borne by bats. They claim a “high degree of confidence” in this theory, citing compelling but as-yet undisclosed evidence – despite the US director of national intelligence issuing a rare public statement disparaging this theory. The bitter lessons of Iraq appear to have been lost on Trump and the Murdoch empire that supports him Enter the “global exclusive” story of Rupert Murdoch’s Australian Daily Telegraph last weekend, headlined “China’s batty science – bombshell dossier lays out the case against the People’s Republic”. The paper claims to have been leaked a 15-page research dossier prepared by unnamed “western governments” on the Chinese government’s culpability for the outbreak. The clear inference from the Telegraph report is that the document was prepared by the “Five Eyes” intelligence community linking the US, UK, Australian, Canadian and New Zealand intelligence services. Other Murdoch journalists, re-reporting the story, have expressly stated it was a Five Eyes document. While the article itself shies away from stating explicitly the document’s authorship, the newspaper goes on to detail a number of investigatory actions being undertaken by the Five Eyes to nail the Chinese state’s responsibility. The most critical part of the Telegraph newspaper report deals with apparent divisions among the wider intelligence community on the authenticity of the “Wuhan laboratory leak” thesis. And it’s here that Murdoch’s paper becomes explicit in its assertion that the Five Eyes research dossier helps validate the as-yet-unproven claim by Donald Trump and Mike Pompeo that the virus was “invented” at the Wuhan laboratory. The article and associated stories are laced with colourful reporting about Chinese “bat virus” researchers – “bat men”, “bat women” and other tales from the Wuhan bat cave. Nonetheless, having delivered its political ordinance in support of Trump and Pompeo, the Murdoch story carefully and cleverly seeks to cover its traces by stating repeatedly that nothing is yet proven about the laboratory leak. The Murdoch journalist in question, Sharri Markson, a few days later pops up as the prime interview on the Murdoch-owned US cable TV network Fox News. The interviewer is none other than Trump’s personal favourite, Tucker Carlson, who together with Sean Hannity are his cheerleaders-in-chief in the American media. Right on cue, Tucker chimes in that the dossier “is the most substantial confirmation of what we’ve suspected that we’ve had so far” and that “because it’s a multinational effort I think it would be hard to dismiss it as a political document”. The truth is, at this stage, none of us know definitively whether the virus came from the Wuhan laboratory. The best we can do is accept the Australian government’s assertion that this is at best a 5% possibility. Politically, the bottom line is that the leak of this alleged Five Eyes intelligence dossier to the Murdoch media in Australia, before being resold back into the US political audience by the very same Murdoch media, appears designed to back Trump’s and Pompeo’s claim. But this time with the added “authenticity” factor of the dossier being “multinational” and not just a normal drop from the White House to Fox, which have become a dime a dozen. Kevin Rudd - Grauniad - The former Australian PM Oooh, parallels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Leave off xann, the masked singer is really popular Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted May 8, 2020 Moderator Share Posted May 8, 2020 On 01/03/2020 at 23:32, HanoiVillan said: Tom Newton Dunn - the Sun's political editor - put out a bizarre, conspiracy-theory style 'network analysis' of people ...sourced from neo-Nazi websites, and he has faced no apparent professional consequences whatsoever He works for the Sun. Probably got a pay rise. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 11 minutes ago, blandy said: He works for the Sun. Probably got a pay rise. In the two and a half months since that post, he has still faced no professional consequence, and as far as I am aware, has not addressed the matter in any way. I'm not saying this is a surprise, but it's worth noting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted May 8, 2020 Moderator Share Posted May 8, 2020 17 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: I'm not saying this is a surprise, I kind of take it for granted that the likes of the Sun publish a load of complete bollex, and that the editorial people and journos are complicit. I don't think anyone should be remotely surprised, as you say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, blandy said: I kind of take it for granted that the likes of the Sun publish a load of complete bollex, and that the editorial people and journos are complicit. I don't think anyone should be remotely surprised, as you say. I want to draw a bright dividing line. They publish bollocks all day every day; they always have and they always will. I don't like it, but I don't think they'll ever stop, and it is what it is. However, this was bollocks drawn from research done on neo-Nazi websites. Edited May 8, 2020 by HanoiVillan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted May 9, 2020 Moderator Share Posted May 9, 2020 15 hours ago, HanoiVillan said: I want to draw a bright dividing line. They publish bollocks all day every day; they always have and they always will. I don't like it, but I don't think they'll ever stop, and it is what it is. However, this was bollocks drawn from research done on neo-Nazi websites. There’s no dividing line for me. Their headlines and front pages and articles haven’t needed to be sourced from neo nazi websites to be as odious as neo nazi websites. They’re basically not much different on some subjects. There ought to be a dividing line, and no paper ought to be anywhere near it. But the Sun, Mail, Express frequently demonstrate that they lack the integrity, morality, responsibility, whatever to do so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam-AVFC Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Little bit of background for anyone that hasn't followed. JK Rowling is often in battles with trans activists on Twitter as she says women need to be able to access safe places without people who are still biologically male. She gets attacked a lot for this so two days ago wrote a blog post (which I've not read) describing her past in an abusive relationship and how important it was the shelter she went to after was truly safe. That brings us to this morning when The Sun decide to get 'involved'. By posting this filth... Note - they seem to have removed any tweets on it from their own Twitter page so I grabbed one of the first I could find. If it turns out Louise Raw is a superNazi it's completely coincidental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 I haven't read all of Rowling's blog post in detail (it was really long!) but I did get as far as the second paragraph, which completely misrepresented the Maya Forstater case, so it didn't exactly endear her. Of course, that is completely separate to the deliberate cruelty of the Sun splashing the words of her unrepentant abuser on the front page. He might not be sorry, but they **** well should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coda Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Just switched on Murdoch Radio and Giles Coren is on. It's like they don't want you to listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 24 minutes ago, coda said: Just switched on Murdoch Radio and Giles Coren is on. It's like they don't want you to listen. Having looked through the list of presenters, I can't think of a single one I would want to listen to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted July 10, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted July 10, 2020 12 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Having looked through the list of presenters, I can't think of a single one I would want to listen to. James Whale and Ash are quite entertaining Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, Follyfoot said: James Whale and Ash are quite entertaining Isn't that the guy who directed Frankenstein? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted July 10, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted July 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Isn't that the guy who directed Frankenstein? Was resurrected three weeks after the last time we won the cup, much like the source of his film Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Follyfoot said: Was resurrected three weeks after the last time we won the cup, much like the source of his film Fun fact about that James Whale is that he was born in Dudley, of all places. I'd honestly never heard of this other one until you mentioned him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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