ender4 Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 rubbish idea if 3rd place in a group can qualify for last 16. takes the groups just a total waste of time. might as well make it 32 teams, and then have the tournament similar to the world cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 1, 2011 Share Posted July 1, 2011 32 teams will eventually happen and be shitter than World Cup was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted July 1, 2011 VT Supporter Share Posted July 1, 2011 I like the way it is at the moment, its far better than the world cup in respects that its so open. Since everyone has a good chance of doing well the football is so much the better for it. The crowds will also dwindle, especially when two lesser footballing nations meet, which will have obvious repocussions on the atmospheres. Leave things be you money grabbing leaches! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS-T Posted July 31, 2011 Author Share Posted July 31, 2011 Thought I'd bump this after the draw for the 2014 World Cup qualifiers today. Obviously it's quite tough for the other home nations to qualify with only 13 World Cup places up for grabs. It's unlikely that they'll top the group so they have to hope that they can grab second place and then negotiate a play-off. However when it comes to qualifying for Euro 2016, there should be a much greater chance for Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, and the Republic of Ireland to qualify. I think it'll be the group winners and the group runners-up who qualify automatically and then third place will have to face a play-off. 2014 World Cup - 13 European spots up for grabs Euro 2016 - 23 places up for grabs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Why? The Euros are consitently better than the World Cup, and it's because there are less shit teams and a higher number of good teams. Money making shite ruining the game once more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legov Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 but the best 3rd place is bollocks IMO, look at the group stage of 2008 the 4 3rd place teams were czech republic 3pts austria 1 pt romania 2pts sweden 3pts none of them setting the world alight, the two teams with 3pts both beat the team that finished bottom, assume that some poorer teams get through now, the best 3rd place teams will be the ones that put the most goals past the poor team, its a really shit system IMO This. The whole "best runnersup/3rd placers" system is too convoluted and unfair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legov Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Why? The Euros are consitently better than the World Cup, and it's because there are less shit teams and a higher number of good teams. Money making shite ruining the game once more. :evil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troglodyte Posted July 31, 2011 VT Supporter Share Posted July 31, 2011 I can see why people think it's not necessary, but I'm also glad that there will be more football. I don't care if the extra matches are along the lines of Hungary v Romania, I like football and there will still be entertaining games between sides like that (although admittedly, many sides may follow the trend of playing 'boring', defensive football in order to advance to the latter stages). Either way, you're going to end up with 16 decent teams after the group stage, and it'll be great to have those 16 teams (and there are 16 teams qualifying now anyway) fight it out in knockout format. Plus, as others have said, it means that the Home Nations and Ireland are more likely to qualify, which I'd like to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 Yep, club football is the highest standard these days anyway, the great things about these competitions is how much it means to players and countries and how it brings nations together. I'm happy enough to spend my summer days watching more games, even if less quality over **** all else on in the summer. More games of football the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanishVillan Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 I would prefer to keep it at 16 teams. Except the "Top-dogs", qualification is a big thing in itself and making that too easy would mean no interest in the groups. Make a qualification for the qualification or, like in other sports, make A, B, C versions. I don´t know what is happening in Scotland and Rep of Ireland these years but they both got a great history of football and should do better. It isn´t just a lack of numbers, imo.They got around the same population size as Norway, topranked for the WC, and Denmark whose EC history compares ok´ish to Englands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leviramsey Posted July 31, 2011 VT Supporter Share Posted July 31, 2011 I've long thought there was some merit to making it a league competition played out over three seasons with promotion and relegation (with the top countries from the league (maybe 10 from the top 18, 2 from the second 18, 1 from the third division of 15) qualifying for the World Cup). The big countries would be playing each other in qualifiers twice every three years. Isn't UEFA centralizing the TV rights for WC and Euro qualifying? Perhaps that's a preliminary move in this direction... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted July 31, 2011 Share Posted July 31, 2011 It'll be more fun having Ireland and Scotland on board, but the quality will certainly suffer. I can see why it is happening but I'm not sure it'll be a great thing overall. I'm looking forward to Euro 2012 though, the last one was fantastic and the World Cup was so dreadful that it'll be good to see some real quality international football again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS-T Posted October 11, 2011 Author Share Posted October 11, 2011 Qualified nations for Euro 2012: Poland, Ukraine Germany Russia Italy France Holland Greece England Denmark Spain Sweden Qualified nations for the play-offs: Portugal Croatia Republic of Ireland Bosnia and Herzegovina, Czech Republic Estonia Montenegro Turkey All of the above would have qualified straight to the finals if Euro 2012 was a 24-team tournament. The following would have qualified for the play-offs: Belgium Armenia Serbia Romania Hungary Israel Switzerland Norway Scotland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS-T Posted June 16, 2012 Author Share Posted June 16, 2012 Belgium, Turkey, Serbia, Switzerland, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Montenegro, Norway, Wales 8 decent teams who are not at Euro 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 really? Euro 2012 proved that 16 is enough teams in it. Ireland, Sweden, Ukraine, Poland even Greece have not exactly top teams and lack of quality behind wont be much better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voinjama Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 Wales good, seriously? If you were struggling to come up with an 8th team, you could of said Slovenia or Slovakia both who qualified for the 2010 world cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS-T Posted June 16, 2012 Author Share Posted June 16, 2012 Lol I was gonna put Slovakia but I think Wales are decent and have some good young players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted June 16, 2012 Share Posted June 16, 2012 If Wales are decent England are world class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will87 Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Shit idea, why even bother having groups if 3 of the 4 teams are going to qualify. A team could get into the knockout stages with 1 point! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 technically they can but only 4 of the best 3rd place teams go through, 2 go out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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