blandy Posted May 6, 2011 Moderator Share Posted May 6, 2011 Because AV is quite similar to FPTP - because it's effectively FPTP, with the Post being set at ">50% (and after second prefs etc. if necessary) rather than "the highest percent of anyone on first count". Because PR doesn't have a "post" it's "you get a tenth of the total votes, then you get a tenth of the MPs". There's an expression people use "Face-palm" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condimentalist Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 I've always thought that 'first past the post' is an enormously misleading name for our electoral system, because there isn't a post. I don't know how or why that name has become accpeted terminology. It is actually much more fitting for systems like AV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 I've always thought that 'first past the post' is an enormously misleading name for our electoral system, because there isn't a post. I don't know how or why that name has become accpeted terminology. It is actually much more fitting for systems like AV.I don't know where it came from originally but surely it has something to do with parliament where a party needs a certain number of MPs to achieve a majority? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDon Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Brmingham votes no, nice one folks. No problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saturdaygig Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 It looks like all labours gains in the councils today were all their own voters who voted Lib tactically at the general to try and keep the tories out. Funnily enough the same people who would benefit most from AV because they wouldn't need to vote tactically any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaAndLoyal Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 No vote officially wins with loads of results still to come. Unlucky Ed and Nick. The country has spoken! Thank god this board isn't a true representation of the voting public :winkold: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drat01 Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 No vote officially wins with loads of results still to come. Unlucky Ed and Nick. Say's a lot about your thinking Jon, when you are more concerned about a "victory" against Clegg and Milliband. I'd be interested to see what you have to say now to the comments about no further debates on electoral change, didn't you call that BS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 I'd be interested to see what you have to say now to the comments about no further debates on electoral change, didn't you call that BS? It is BS. Just because the chinless wonder leading the NO campaign says that doesn't make it so. IMO full PR will be on a manifesto by the election after next at the outside. If we'd had a yes to AV then that would have been it and our voting system would be in the same bracket as those democratic giants, Fiji and Papua New Guinea. Those who want reform (including me) dodged a bullet yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drat01 Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 IMO full PR will be on a manifesto by the election after next at the outside. If we'd had a yes to AV then that would have been it and our voting system would be in the same bracket as those democratic giants, Fiji and Papua New Guinea. :-) - that would be the same manifesto pledges as we saw at the last election :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetrees Posted May 7, 2011 Share Posted May 7, 2011 I am against AV and PR and therefore voted no but, had the third option mooted by someone else of 'none of the above, but I am interested in what other options may be presented' then I would have marked my X there, purely because I believe that a large number of people are interested in change, and they should be given the right to receive more options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted May 7, 2011 Administrator Share Posted May 7, 2011 VT got saturated with "no" ads as the "no" campaign must have bought the keyword "AV" for the duration. Dumb arses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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