wilko154 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 2 hours ago, sir_gary_cahill said: I think that’s a bit unfair on Hutton, he always gives 100% and that’s all that can asked of any given player. Yes, he’s not the most gifted player, I don’t know why he gets so much so much stick on here and at matches. For me, he’s a legend now, according to wiki, he’s played 173 times for us, he’s our longest serving player in the current squad, I love him If Alan Hutton is a club legend we might as well just pack up and go home. He's a cult hero from the last two years but is being left horribly exposed at left back, arguably a position he should never have had to play in (another Steve Bruce legacy) Every game he frustrates me with his constant ambling forward leaving his position vacant when a simple pass would get the ball to the winger already occupying the space. Or standing inside the edge of the box as the team break on us leaving a winger with a crazy amount of space out wide, enough to bring a ball down, set himself and begin to run into the box (this then results in either a dangerous cross or a last minute block to go out for a corner). It could be argued that he is playing out of position but the same thing happens whilst he is playing at right back. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevo985 Posted January 2, 2019 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2019 6 hours ago, sir_gary_cahill said: I can’t understand the stick he gets on here and at matches at matches? Are you joking? I've never seen a player so undeservedly loved by the Holte End. Hutton could dribble round our whole team, dropkick our keeper in the face and slam it into our own goal to lose the game in the 95th minute and the Holte End would still be sucking his dick "ALAN HUTTON ALAN HUTTON ALAN HUTTON" Meanwhile someone like Kodjia or Abraham misplaces a pass and the place goes **** toxic. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted January 2, 2019 Moderator Share Posted January 2, 2019 2 hours ago, sir_gary_cahill said: I think that’s a bit unfair on Hutton, he always gives 100% and that’s all that can asked of any given player. Yes, he’s not the most gifted player, I don’t know why he gets so much so much stick on here and at matches. For me, he’s a legend now, according to wiki, he’s played 173 times for us, he’s our longest serving player in the current squad, I love him Legend? Always gives 100%? I give up. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Stevo985 said: I've never seen a player so loved by the Holte End. FTFY And rightly so.. Legend indeed! Edited January 2, 2019 by AvfcRigo82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Hes a **** fraud. Shit player and eptiomises everything wrong with the club over the last 7/8 years. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stevo985 Posted January 2, 2019 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2019 13 minutes ago, AvfcRigo82 said: FTFY And rightly so.. Legend indeed! He has done some good things here. No doubt. That goal against Blues was incredible. But the guy is not a legend. That's insulting to real club legends. He's a very average fullback. I give hi credit for being dedicated to the club. We've treated him like shit at times and he's got his head down and worked his way back in. he loves the club and even though the "always gives 100%" thing is exaggerated, he does usually seem like he's putting a shift in. But he's not very good. He makes so many mistakes and puts in so many poor performances yet he's absolutely lauded by the fans. We have players in the squad, like Kodjia for example, who have been exceptional for us at times yet the fans are on their back. But Hutton, certainly at the games, seems immune. He'll make a 40 yard run and boot the ball into the car par and the crowd will love it. Yet Adomah misplace one pass and the place goes mental. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Spoony Posted January 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2019 Wow lots of hyperbole on here. He’s a bang average player who the fans love due to the fact he has never complained when bombed out, he’s passionate about playing for Villa and the club clearly means a lot to him (which is more than can be said for 80% of the players we have had over the last 7 years). Personally I do not think he is good enough and it is time that he was replaced, but he has been a great servant, he has dished up a few memorable goals and the fans love him as much as he loves them, and that relationship with the fans and the club counts for something on a non-footballing level. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 I think the truth lies somewhere between "He's dogcrap and epitomises what is wrong at the club" and "He's a legend who always gives 100%". I don't think you can fairly level the criticism at him that he doesn't try. I think he does always give 100%, so do most players though. He is filling in at left back, a position he isn't particularly good at and that is helping the team out because the alternatives are worse. But he's a liability at left back and at best he is cover at right back. I wouldn't be rushing to offer him another contract, he frustrates the hell out of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rodders0223 Posted January 2, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 2, 2019 Another thing, when the ball goes out for a throw in on his side, no matter how much momentum we have or how much we are chasing the game - as soon as it goes out, we have to wait for Alan to come across and collect the ball, regardless of where he is on the pitch and then wait another 5 minutes for him to throw the **** thing. Why? Is this a tactic or instruction. Second half we had momentum and were trying to build some tempo, it goes out on Bree's side and the nearest player picks it up, chucks it in and we are off again moving the ball. Goes out on Alan's side. We wait for Alan to come over and collect the ball. All tempo and momentum dies on it's arse. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omariqy Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 I would say 70% of games he jogs back when a team breaks against us. Yet he is labelled as a trier. That's why he is a fraud. He did it numerous times when we got relegated but gets away with it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Messy Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 'giving it your best' is the minimum id expect from every player, coach, manager, tea lady etc. Thanks Alan but it is time to be upgraded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Hopefully by this point Smith is a sick as we are of Playing "Where's Hutton" every game and has someone lined up to replace him. Forget Braveheart, this is the costume he should have worn for the Christmas party Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodgyknees Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Most of the time he is jogging back to cover a mistake he made in the first place. The effort he puts in to cover that mistake would not be needed if he didn't make obvious and consistent mistakes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted January 2, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted January 2, 2019 2 hours ago, Spoony said: Wow lots of hyperbole on here. He’s a bang average player who the fans love due to the fact he has never complained when bombed out, he’s passionate about playing for Villa and the club clearly means a lot to him (which is more than can be said for 80% of the players we have had over the last 7 years). Personally I do not think he is good enough and it is time that he was replaced, but he has been a great servant, he has dished up a few memorable goals and the fans love him as much as he loves them, and that relationship with the fans and the club counts for something on a non-footballing level. my thoughts exactly...think his time is up personally and if he leaves at the end of the season he can with his head held high. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Definitely not a legend. But he's definitely a scapegoat. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 I understand many folks gripes with him and they cannot be ignored for sure. I.e out of position etc. which has been a factor that has stood out in the last few games certainly. Although I would class him now as more of a wing back rather than a full back as such. I do feel at 34 this will sadly be his last season with us and a shame we won't be able to off him a testimonial etc. I think it is more the new style and system that is making both look full backs look worse than they actually are. I recall last season Elmo was solid behind Albert/Snoddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtsimonw Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 6 hours ago, omariqy said: Hes a **** fraud. Shit player and eptiomises everything wrong with the club over the last 7/8 years. Working hard, not complaining, taking a pay cut... I don't think those are really negatives. Say what you want about a something as subjective as his ability (which I think is above average for this league), I don't think you can really knock his professionalism. As for people criticising his "laziness" in jogging back. How many people have accused Bree of the same for QPRs second? He was out of position, took too long to get back, was at fault for the goal. Not a peep. Or how about people criticising the new manager for leaving his full backs so exposed and open to the counter? Nope. The same few players will always, always be criticised, regardless of what they do. It's very obvious when they do something very noticably good (Kodjia scoring a brace, Hutton v small heath) and people still have to put the digs in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodders0223 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 30 minutes ago, kurtsimonw said: Working hard, not complaining, taking a pay cut... I don't think those are really negatives. Say what you want about a something as subjective as his ability (which I think is above average for this league), I don't think you can really knock his professionalism. As for people criticising his "laziness" in jogging back. How many people have accused Bree of the same for QPRs second? He was out of position, took too long to get back, was at fault for the goal. Not a peep. Or how about people criticising the new manager for leaving his full backs so exposed and open to the counter? Nope. The same few players will always, always be criticised, regardless of what they do. It's very obvious when they do something very noticably good (Kodjia scoring a brace, Hutton v small heath) and people still have to put the digs in. He never took a pay cut, he was out of contract, we offered him a new contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted January 2, 2019 Moderator Share Posted January 2, 2019 3 hours ago, kurtsimonw said: Definitely not a legend. But he's definitely a scapegoat. No, people just think he is shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 (edited) He clearly is way off the pace at this level, it's so obvious for everyone to see. Costing us points every single week, i actually think Bree is fine, but Hutton is the broken cog in the wheel. Need replacement badly. Both Taylor and even Tuanzebe is better options at lb. Edited January 2, 2019 by villalad21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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