peterms Posted February 21, 2019 Share Posted February 21, 2019 15 minutes ago, PompeyVillan said: Although, let's not forget 'being radicalised' isn't something that just happens to someone and they have no control over it. There is a choice to accept a hateful, disgusting idealogy or not. Yes. There's a strong argument that she bears less responsibility for her radicalisation than eg Rees-Mogg with his defence of the mass killing of people in British concentration camps, because she is younger, dafter, moe impressionable, but she also bears responsibility for her choices. (Where was he radicalised, by the way? Was it his parents, his teachers, his peer group? Did he attend talks by hate preachers? Did he self-radicalise on the internet? He should be placed under surveillance). 15 minutes ago, PompeyVillan said: Taking her citizenship away is immaterial to me really, if we legally could, I wouldn't kick up a fuss if we did. It's not clear to me as to whether we can actually do that though. It seems we can't, and even if we could, it would be to dump the problem on Bangladesh, who have played no part in this. It would be wrong to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted February 22, 2019 Moderator Share Posted February 22, 2019 13 hours ago, Dr_Pangloss said: She comes across as arrogant and unremorseful, hasn't been played well from her end at all, has been given the worst possible advise from her lawyer. Yes, a mix of indoctrination, not very bright, a realisation that she’s a teenager in a hole, grim circumstances and then it all being in the media spotlight and political positioning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 I'm already looking forward to our next half arsed poorly planned low budget escapade and it's unforeseen consequences. We bring this shit on ourselves everytime and we're surprised by that everytime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted February 22, 2019 Share Posted February 22, 2019 Private Eye being as helpful as ever 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 Begum's third child dies BBC Quote The baby died of pneumonia, according to a medical certificate. He was less than three weeks old. she's made some great life choices 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Undoubtedly a personal tragedy for her. My preference was always to bring her back, absolutely throw the book at her with the harshest possible measures and put her child into the system. That said, governments if they wish can attempt to take a hardline response against people going to fight for ISIS, so this really is a result of her personal choices. Of all the sticks to beat this pathetic government with, this is very far down my list. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 Things getting hot in Algeria right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted April 5, 2019 Moderator Share Posted April 5, 2019 8 minutes ago, maqroll said: Things getting hot in Algeria right now Above the seasonal average? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted April 5, 2019 Share Posted April 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, bickster said: Above the seasonal average? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 (edited) Libyan general on the march and all saying please don't charge into Tripoli, think of the children. Pompeo out with a statement "“We have made clear that we oppose the military offensive by Khalifa Haftar’s forces and urge the immediate halt to these military operations against the Libyan capital,” Pompeo said. “There is no military solution to the Libya conflict.”" https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-04-08/pompeo-warns-libyan-warlord-s-forces-to-halt-advance-on-tripoli Something a little ironic in that statement. btw. Anyone care to guess in which country this esteemed general spent the recent past in exile? Living very close to the HQ of an organization very near and dear to our hearts. Edited April 8, 2019 by villakram A: USA, CIA... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted April 8, 2019 Share Posted April 8, 2019 4 hours ago, villakram said: Libyan general on the march and all saying please don't charge into Tripoli, think of the children. Pompeo out with a statement "“We have made clear that we oppose the military offensive by Khalifa Haftar’s forces and urge the immediate halt to these military operations against the Libyan capital,” Pompeo said. “There is no military solution to the Libya conflict.”" https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-04-08/pompeo-warns-libyan-warlord-s-forces-to-halt-advance-on-tripoli Something a little ironic in that statement. btw. Anyone care to guess in which country this esteemed general spent the recent past in exile? Living very close to the HQ of an organization very near and dear to our hearts. I wonder if the genius who signed onto it on this side of the pond can see the past the end of his trotters to notice yet another flaming catastrophe he helped cause. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 from the street protests in Khartoum, Sudan a few days ago, I just thought this was such a powerful image Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villakram Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 (edited) Some cracking reporting by Al Jazeera showing the usual suspects running arms into Libya to support the CIA's man. Bomb them to their freedom! https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/05/libya-flight-data-places-mysterious-planes-haftar-territory-190527205819893.html "Satellite images and flight data show two Russian-made Ilyushin 76 aircraft registered to a joint Emirati-Kazakh company called Reem Travel made several trips between Egypt, Israel, and Jordan before landing at military bases controlled by Haftar's Libyan National Army (LNA) in early April, just as it attempted to seize the capital." Edited May 30, 2019 by villakram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Quote ‘The Saudis couldn’t do it without us’: the UK’s true role in Yemen’s deadly war For more than four years, a brutal Saudi air campaign has bombarded Yemen, killing tens of thousands, injuring hundreds of thousands and displacing millions – creating the world’s worst humanitarian crisis. And British weapons are doing much of the killing. Every day Yemen is hit by British bombs – dropped by British planes that are flown by British-trained pilots and maintained and prepared inside Saudi Arabia by thousands of British contractors. The Saudi-led military coalition, which includes the UAE, Bahrain and Kuwait, has “targeted civilians … in a widespread and systematic manner”, according to the UN – dropping bombs on hospitals, schools, weddings, funerals and even camps for displaced people fleeing the bombing. Saudi Arabia has in effect contracted out vital parts of its war against Yemen’s Houthi movement to the US and the UK. Britain does not merely supply weapons for this war: it provides the personnel and expertise required to keep the war going. The British government has deployed RAF personnel to work as engineers, and to train Saudi pilots and targeteers – while an even larger role is played by BAE Systems, Britain’s biggest arms company, which the government has subcontracted to provide weapons, maintenance and engineers inside Saudi Arabia. “The Saudi bosses absolutely depend on BAE Systems,” John Deverell, a former MoD mandarin and defence attache to Saudi Arabia and Yemen, told me. “They couldn’t do it without us.” A BAE employee recently put it more plainly to Channel 4’s Dispatches: “If we weren’t there, in seven to 14 days there wouldn’t be a jet in the sky.” Grauniad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 Ex Egypt president Mahammad Mursi collapsed in court and died from a hearth attack a few days back. He was suffering from a benign tumor but there are reports that he was denied medical care in prison and that he was tortured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Quote UK arms sales to Saudi Arabia declared unlawful by court of appeal Exports contributed to indiscriminate civilian deaths in Saudi-led bombing campaign in Yemen, court rules The court of appeal was ruling on a challenge brought by Campaign Against Arms Trade (CAAT) over the UK government’s decision to continue sales of military equipment to Saudi Arabia. Photograph: Stefan Rousseau/PA British arms sales to Saudi Arabia that were used in Yemen have been declared unlawful by the court of appeal because they contributed to indiscriminate civilian casualties in the bombing campaign from forces led by the Gulf kingdom. The ruling from three senior judges follows a challenge brought by Campaign Against Arms Trade, which had accused the UK government of licensing arms sales when there was a clear risk that their use could breach international humanitarian law. In its judgment in London on Thursday, the court of appeal ruled that “the process of decision-making by the government was wrong in law in one significant respect”. Announcing the court’s decision the master of the rolls, Sir Terence Etherton, sitting with Lord Justice Irwin and Lord Justice Singh, said the government “made no concluded assessments of whether the Saudi-led coalition had committed violations of international humanitarian law in the past, during the Yemen conflict, and made no attempt to do so”. However, he added: “The decision of the court today does not mean that licences to export arms to Saudi Arabia must immediately be suspended.” He said the government “must reconsider the matter” and estimate any future risks in light of its conclusions about the past. The UK has licensed at least £4.7bn worth of arms to Saudi Arabia since the start of the civil war in Yemen in March 2015, with most of the recorded sales taking place before 2018. Sales are signed off by the foreign, defence and international trade secretaries, and ministers and former ministers including the Tory leadership candidates Boris Johnson and Jeremy Hunt have defended the UK’s arms relationship with Riyadh. Grauniad 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Quote A United Nations panel of experts has uncovered fragments of British-made laser guidance missile systems at an air raid site in Yemen in a strike that it concluded breached international humanitarian law. The attacks took place in September 2016, a month after the then foreign secretary Boris Johnson said he was content to allow the export of weapons systems to Saudi Arabia in the expectation they would be used in Yemen. A guidance unit for a “high explosive” bomb – stamped with the name of a Brighton based company, EDO MBM Technology Ltd – were found at the site in the Yemen capital Sana’a after four bombs were dropped on the site at 12.45am on 13 September. Missile parts from the same British factory – ultimately owned by the US arms supplier L3 Harris – were also found by the UN experts at the Alsonidar complex following a second air strike nine days later, where a water pump factory and a former tube maker were located. Though the UK has licensed at least £4.7bn of exports to Saudi Arabia since the country became embroiled in the war in Yemen, the UN documentation demonstrates that British technology has been deployed in a conflict where the Saudi-led coalition has been repeatedly accused of indiscriminate bombing. British arms sales to Saudi Arabia of equipment that could be deployed in Yemen were held to be unlawful in June by the court of appeal in London, because ministers had failed to conduct a proper impact assessment of the bombing on civilians. Grauniad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted January 24, 2020 Share Posted January 24, 2020 More interesting reporting, with a massive protest against US occupation of Iraq being reported as hundreds of people. To be fair, there must have been a point in time at which the protest consisted only of hundreds of people, and another point in time at which it consisted of 17 people, or 49 people. But it's not how any objective report would cover it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 They’ve shot themselves in the foot there. Friendly Fire Quote Nineteen sailors have been killed and 15 others injured in an accident involving Iranian naval vessels in the Gulf of Oman, Iran's navy has said. Iranian media reported that the support ship Konarak was hit by a new anti-ship missile being tested by the frigate Jamaran during an exercise on Sunday. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, chrisp65 said: They’ve shot themselves in the foot there. Friendly Fire . So I guess it works though? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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