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Tunisia, Egypt, Libya... Arab Countries in Revolt

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You are right AWOL but we can't have more regular army soldiers because we need ex soldiers to teach, because the government doesn't want actual teachers any more. Plus nobody can afford to go to uni any more even if they did want to be a teacher.

 

So I think you will agree the only logical solution is to train teachers to fight and pack them off to the Islamic State.... oh.... I forgot we shouldn't call them that any more as that will make them go away.

 

It would be funny if not so tragic.

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Surely the best policy would be to cut ties with saudi and stop medling in the middle east when its none of our business.

The war in Iraq and failed war in Afghanistan contributed to the creation of ISIS in the first place, then we decided to arm ISIS in the early stages of the syrian war against assad and his army.

The foreign policy of the goverments in this country in recent years is stupidity beyond belief.

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Surely the best policy would be to cut ties with saudi and stop medling in the middle east when its none of our business.

The war in Iraq and failed war in Afghanistan contributed to the creation of ISIS in the first place, then we decided to arm ISIS in the early stages of the syrian war against assad and his army.

The foreign policy of the goverments in this country in recent years is stupidity beyond belief.

What about the oil?

I may sound like a conspiracy nut but I honestly believe the powers that make all this crazy decisions know exactly what they are doing. What looks like stupidity to us mere mortals are really calculated decisions designed to keep the west powerful and the Middle East in check. (While protecting the oil).

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Surely the best policy would be to cut ties with saudi and stop medling in the middle east when its none of our business.

The war in Iraq and failed war in Afghanistan contributed to the creation of ISIS in the first place, then we decided to arm ISIS in the early stages of the syrian war against assad and his army.

The foreign policy of the goverments in this country in recent years is stupidity beyond belief.

What about the oil?

I may sound like a conspiracy nut but I honestly believe the powers that make all this crazy decisions know exactly what they are doing. What looks like stupidity to us mere mortals are really calculated decisions designed to keep the west powerful and the Middle East in check. (While protecting the oil).

Of course, they value oil and money more than lives, thats to be seen throughout history.

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The Iran deal has provoked some interesting reactions, most worryingly from Israel who don't accept the deal and have said that they "will always defend themselves" I wonder if they'd have the nerve to "defend themselves" all over Iran even without the blessing of the US?

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The Iran deal has provoked some interesting reactions, most worryingly from Israel who don't accept the deal and have said that they "will always defend themselves" I wonder if they'd have the nerve to "defend themselves" all over Iran even without the blessing of the US?

 

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said it was a "stunning historic mistake" (The deal)

 

Much like the creation of Israel mate.

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The Iran deal has provoked some interesting reactions, most worryingly from Israel who don't accept the deal and have said that they "will always defend themselves" I wonder if they'd have the nerve to "defend themselves" all over Iran even without the blessing of the US?

I doubt it, they know Obama wouldn't ride to the rescue. However the deal still has to be approved by the US Congress, that is where they'll focus their efforts now.

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The Iran deal has provoked some interesting reactions, most worryingly from Israel who don't accept the deal and have said that they "will always defend themselves" I wonder if they'd have the nerve to "defend themselves" all over Iran even without the blessing of the US?

I doubt it, they know Obama wouldn't ride to the rescue. However the deal still has to be approved by the US Congress, that is where they'll focus their efforts now.

 

Not sure a rescue would be necessary! 

 

I'm sure the US, with it's new accord with Iran, would be only too happy to make profit from both if things got heated.

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The Iran deal has provoked some interesting reactions, most worryingly from Israel who don't accept the deal and have said that they "will always defend themselves" I wonder if they'd have the nerve to "defend themselves" all over Iran even without the blessing of the US?

I doubt it, they know Obama wouldn't ride to the rescue. However the deal still has to be approved by the US Congress, that is where they'll focus their efforts now.

 

 

they changed the rules at Congress for this one apparently, congress has to 'not reject' the deal, sounds like arguing over wording, but it's a presumed approval unless two thirds reject it

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I wouldn't disagree that generally a large percentage of candidates fail selection, but if the pool of Special Forces remains small, its not necessarily because the number of line regiments has been cut.

If you wanted to get into a shooting war, these past 14 years your only had to join the infantry or RM, rather than put yourself through hell to join Them.

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An interesting week with a coalition of Saudi backed militias, Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula and UAE special forces fighting side by side to successfully retake the port of Aden from Yemeni Houthi rebels. No exaggeration either, that is exactly what's been going on.

It's fair to say the cat is now very publicly out of the bag vis a vis Gulf regimes and their relationships to Jihadi terrorists. That's 15 years worth of western counter terrorism policy destroyed in a week. Hard to see how the UK government are going to explain away our support for Saudi in this conflict, that is were a journalist with some balls and a brain to ask the PM that specific question....

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Wonder what impact they will have? The issue with them becoming involved is that it might increase attacks in Turkey from sympathisers. Would they send troops over the border to start steamrolling across Syria?

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Not sure about the internal attacks, sounds like they've rounded up everyone with even the remotest link to any kind of group deemed to be a terror group irrespective of their position in relation to ISIS. 300 odd rounded up so far according to reports.

 

Turkey has been more than happy to watch on as ISIS tried to wipe Kobane off the map but they suddenly seem to have woken up to the fact borders mean nothing to ISIS.

 

The attacks on their soil have served as a reminder that they could soon have an internal problem on their hands.

 

Added concern for them will have been the attacks in Tunisa and the pictures of a ISIS fighter on holiday on a Turkish beach that have emerged in the last few days. More than 1m Brits hit Turkish beaches each year and I'd imagine they are very worried about the prospect of another beach shooting spree.

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The sooner ISIS is wiped off the map, the better. Pure scum. Not sure what possesses people to join them.

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ISIS killed a Turkish soldier from inside Syria, so for now the gloves have come off. They're allowing the US to operate air strikes from Incirlik too.

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Turkey are fighting on two fronts now. Firstly, orchestrating attacks with ISIS to bomb HDP rallies in Diyarbakır a few months ago. Also it's been revealed this week that Erdoğan planned to activate ISIS sympathisers within Turkey to bomb shopping centres and metro stations in order to create public panic and a snap early election. Erdoğan is pissed the AKP didn't gain a controlling majority and his old party seems to be turning against him.

The massacre at Suruç last week highlighted Erdoğans regard for the 32 young people who died. He called them Kurdish sympathisers and said they should have kept out of it. Yet 2 soldiers die at a border crossing and they are immediately "martyred". These people were carrying toys and building equipment to help rebuild Kobanê.

Turkey is a corrupt and very nasty nationalistic state. Institutional racism is rife whereby Kurds, Armenians and Alevis are held back. Corruption is rife right up to the higher echelons (even Erdoğans). Erdogans son is siphoning off Syrian oil and gas and laundering the money through his shipping companies. Erdogans daughter is the head of an organisation who was said to be treating ISIS militants, in Turkey, in hospitals in the south east.

The AKP gov't will fire a few rockets and mortars for sure and kill scores of IS militants, but they are not afraid of killing their own people in the name of ISIS to gain votes and regain absolute parliamentary majority.

ISIS are pure scum but Erdogan's Turkey is deceitful and murderous.

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Erdogan being entirely opposed to Turkey's founding principals has always sat as an odd bedfellow with being its statesman IMO.

Given that he also seems to be evil makes his apparent popularity very bizarre. I assume Turkey must be a fairly schizophrenic nation to not bin him wholesale. I'd not be surprised to find that he is playing both sides of the ISIS coin in all honesty.

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