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a court case in london of a man accused of terrorism acts in syria has been thrown out because it was proven british intelligence services were arming and funding these rebel groups in syria. great stuff, its as if we want all this shit.

Hopefully the Tories will finally get there way and be able to scrap the stupid human rights act so crap like you have just mentioned doesn't happen no more.

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Now the truth emerges: how the US fuelled the rise of Isis in Syria and Iraq

Seumas Milne

Seumas Milne

The efforts of western states are fruitless – the sectarian terror group won’t be defeated by the same power that incubated it in the first place

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Wednesday 3 June 2015 20.56 BST Last modified on Thursday 4 June 2015 00.01 BST

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The war on terror, that campaign without end launched 14 years ago by George Bush, is tying itself up in ever more grotesque contortions. On Monday the trial in London of a Swedish man, Bherlin Gildo, accused of terrorism in Syria, collapsed after it became clear British intelligence had been arming the same rebel groups the defendant was charged with supporting.

The prosecution abandoned the case, apparently to avoid embarrassing the intelligence services. The defence argued that going ahead withthe trial would have been an “affront to justice” when there was plenty of evidence the British state was itself providing “extensive support” to the armed Syrian opposition.

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That didn’t only include the “non-lethal assistance” boasted of by the government (including body armour and military vehicles), but training, logistical support and the secret supply of “arms on a massive scale”. Reports were cited that MI6 had cooperated with the CIA on a “rat line” of arms transfers from Libyan stockpiles to the Syrian rebels in 2012 after the fall of the Gaddafi regime.

Clearly, the absurdity of sending someone to prison for doing what ministers and their security officials were up to themselves became too much. But it’s only the latest of a string of such cases. Less fortunate was a London cab driver Anis Sardar, who was given a life sentence a fortnight earlier for taking part in 2007 in resistance to the occupation of Iraq by US and British forces. Armed opposition to illegal invasion and occupation clearly doesn’t constitute terrorism or murder on most definitions, including the Geneva convention.

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But terrorism is now squarely in the eye of the beholder. And nowhere is that more so than in the Middle East, where today’s terrorists are tomorrow’s fighters against tyranny – and allies are enemies – often at the bewildering whim of a western policymaker’s conference call.

For the past year, US, British and other western forces have been back in Iraq, supposedly in the cause of destroying the hyper-sectarian terror group Islamic State (formerly known as al-Qaida in Iraq). This was after Isis overran huge chunks of Iraqi and Syrian territory and proclaimed a self-styled Islamic caliphate.

The campaign isn’t going well. Last month, Isis rolled into the Iraqi city of Ramadi, while on the other side of the now nonexistent border its forces conquered the Syrian town of Palmyra. Al-Qaida’s official franchise, the Nusra Front, has also been making gains in Syria.

Some Iraqis complain that the US sat on its hands while all this was going on. The Americans insist they are trying to avoid civilian casualties, and claim significant successes. Privately, officials say they don’t want to be seen hammering Sunni strongholds in a sectarian war and risk upsetting their Sunni allies in the Gulf.

A revealing light on how we got here has now been shone by a recently declassified secret US intelligence report, written in August 2012, which uncannily predicts – and effectively welcomes – the prospect of a “Salafist principality” in eastern Syria and an al-Qaida-controlled Islamic state in Syria and Iraq. In stark contrast to western claims at the time, the Defense Intelligence Agency document identifies al-Qaida in Iraq (which became Isis) and fellow Salafists as the “major forces driving the insurgency in Syria” – and states that “western countries, the Gulf states and Turkey” were supporting the opposition’s efforts to take control of eastern Syria.

Raising the “possibility of establishing a declared or undeclared Salafist principality”, the Pentagon report goes on, “this is exactly what the supporting powers to the opposition want, in order to isolate the Syrian regime, which is considered the strategic depth of the Shia expansion (Iraq and Iran)”.

American forces bomb one set of rebels while backing another in Syria

Which is pretty well exactly what happened two years later. The report isn’t a policy document. It’s heavily redacted and there are ambiguities in the language. But the implications are clear enough. A year into the Syrian rebellion, the US and its allies weren’t only supporting and arming an opposition they knew to be dominated by extreme sectarian groups; they were prepared to countenance the creation of some sort of “Islamic state” – despite the “grave danger” to Iraq’s unity – as a Sunni buffer to weaken Syria.

That doesn’t mean the US created Isis, of course, though some of its Gulf allies certainly played a role in it – as the US vice-president, Joe Biden, acknowledged last year. But there was no al-Qaida in Iraq until the US and Britain invaded. And the US has certainly exploited the existence of Isis against other forces in the region as part of a wider drive to maintain western control.

The calculus changed when Isis started beheading westerners and posting atrocities online, and the Gulf states are now backing other groups in the Syrian war, such as the Nusra Front. But this US and western habit of playing with jihadi groups, which then come back to bite them, goes back at least to the 1980s war against the Soviet Union in Afghanistan, which fostered the original al-Qaida under CIA tutelage.

It was recalibrated during the occupation of Iraq, when US forces led by General Petraeus sponsored an El Salvador-style dirty war of sectarian death squads to weaken the Iraqi resistance. And it was reprised in 2011 in the Nato-orchestrated war in Libya, where Isis last week took control of Gaddafi’s home town of Sirte.

In reality, US and western policy in the conflagration that is now the Middle East is in the classic mould of imperial divide-and-rule. American forces bomb one set of rebels while backing another in Syria, and mount what are effectively joint military operations with Iran against Isis in Iraq while supporting Saudi Arabia’s military campaign against Iranian-backed Houthi forces in Yemen. However confused US policy may often be, a weak, partitioned Iraq and Syria fit such an approach perfectly.

What’s clear is that Isis and its monstrosities won’t be defeated by the same powers that brought it to Iraq and Syria in the first place, or whose open and covert war-making has fostered it in the years since. Endless western military interventions in the Middle East have brought only destruction and division. It’s the people of the region who can cure this disease – not those who incubated the virus.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jun/03/us-isis-syria-iraq?CMP=fb_gu

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Sadly the sectarian divide in the ME is so deep, theyll always be going at each other. The only thing that seems to keep a lid on sectarian violence and thd expansion of terrorist groups are quasi-secular strongmen like Saddam Hussein.

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a court case in london of a man accused of terrorism acts in syria has been thrown out because it was proven british intelligence services were arming and funding these rebel groups in syria. great stuff, its as if we want all this shit.

Hopefully the Tories will finally get there way and be able to scrap the stupid human rights act so crap like you have just mentioned doesn't happen no more.

Theirs an act protecting stupid humans? I'd scrap that too

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What is the diffrence between sunni and shia ?

 

Why dont they get along ?

It's 2 sects of Islam.

The split first occurs due to differences of opinion over who would succeed Muhammad when he died. That caused a war which has subsequently split the religion. They also have slightly different takes on other matters, like which parts of the other Islamic holy text, the hadith, are accepted and how they are interpreted.

Basically, usual nonsense as any split in religious groups, but this one has a war at it's heart about a fundamental part of the religion at it's founding so is more bloody than you'd usually see.

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i see isis have fired two rockets into israel from egypt after the attack on egyptian land. they say its for retaliation over israel intervening over them attacking egyptian soldiers, either way its another step to even more conflict.

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IS attacking Israel? Good luck with that IS!

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In the past couple of months they've lost land to the YPG, Assad & Hezbollah are about to push out from Aleppo, threatened Russia and are now threatening Israel.

 

They may have been clever with some tactics, but threatening Russia and Israel is very, very stupid. Countries that don't abide with 'the rules' like most Western nations do are not who you want to be going for.

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Surely it will be hard for Israel to attack IS as the countries where they are based will see it as an attack on themselves and in turn see it as an excuse to attack back?

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In a way, you've got to love Russia, because they're **** nutters who don't give a shit, love vodka and fighting.

IS threatening Russia is like an and threatening to take down a 300 year old oak tree on its own. Good luck with that.

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