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Any chance we can offload Petrov instead ?

I'm sure a lower league club would snap him up and free up the wages to keep Makoun

Too late. We've already sent on him loan while we're still stuck with the deadwood since the dawn of time.

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Woody,

I seem to have hit some deep seated nerve with you, regarding denial. Im ever so sorry.

Embarrassing ourselves on the Generals thread?

People are concerned about the club they love, and have a right to ask him questions, however hard. They are afterall paying customers whom actually love the club more than our absent friends seem to do.

No, whats more embarrassing is the odious arse licking that goes on. "Oh General, let me smell your underpants, you are lovely"

The sooner that self centered egotistical buffoons like you, wake up and smell the coffee, we might progress. Otherwise you, may still be licking Randys arse when we are playing the likes of Hull City next term....

"Oh Randy, your doing such a wonderful job"

Just because we have an owner with a Porn star name, does not mean he has the right to treat this great club as a plaything, and its hard pressed supporters as pricks.

Oh, and whilst im at it. If you wish to "embarrass" yourself on the Generals thread, ask him if Randy has heared from a certain Nicholas Padfield over the last month or so!!

Bet you dont get answer, even if he did manage to climb out of his pit.

Thats all im saying on this for now, but please dont get too upset when others like me, point out your living in denial, when it comes to that nice Mr Lerner, with his Villa Tattoo :oops: (Bet you still think hes got one :lol: )

FWIW, I still have no idea what you are talking about

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Makoun is going because he is not good enough, end of story.

Thats why hes moving to a team in the Champions League..

I'm sure there's been plenty of players who have appeared in the champions league that wouldn't cut it in the premier league.

It's ridiculous how good makoun has been built up to be on here with virtually no evidence to back it up.

Like the manager who signed him he won't be missed.

Likewise there are several teams in the Champions League group stages who wouldn't do very well in the Premier League, eg Bate, Apoel, Oțelul and Arsenal ( ;) ).

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Any chance we can offload Petrov instead ?

I'm sure a lower league club would snap him up and free up the wages to keep Makoun

Why would you offload a much better player though?

That's obviously a matter of opinion. And we're all entitled to one

For me they're like chalk and cheese. One's a player with quick feet and a quick mind adapt at playing a pass and move game, that came from a CL club, and is now going to another. The other is a bog standard, over the hill tired workhorse that is neither a defensive or attacking midfield that appears to be running on empty and offering little in either department

But that's just my view.

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all those saying he is leaving because he isnt good enough, have you not thought that we will be weaker without him?

another body out and no-one replacing him

outrageous

On this occasion, no I don't. We have Petrov, Delph, Bannan and Ireland who I'd rather see in the team ahead of him.

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Woody,

I seem to have hit some deep seated nerve with you, regarding denial. Im ever so sorry.

Embarrassing ourselves on the Generals thread?

People are concerned about the club they love, and have a right to ask him questions, however hard. They are afterall paying customers whom actually love the club more than our absent friends seem to do.

No, whats more embarrassing is the odious arse licking that goes on. "Oh General, let me smell your underpants, you are lovely"

The sooner that self centered egotistical buffoons like you, wake up and smell the coffee, we might progress. Otherwise you, may still be licking Randys arse when we are playing the likes of Hull City next term....

"Oh Randy, your doing such a wonderful job"

Just because we have an owner with a Porn star name, does not mean he has the right to treat this great club as a plaything, and its hard pressed supporters as pricks.

Oh, and whilst im at it. If you wish to "embarrass" yourself on the Generals thread, ask him if Randy has heared from a certain Nicholas Padfield over the last month or so!!

Bet you dont get answer, even if he did manage to climb out of his pit.

Thats all im saying on this for now, but please dont get too upset when others like me, point out your living in denial, when it comes to that nice Mr Lerner, with his Villa Tattoo :oops: (Bet you still think hes got one :lol: )

Great post. I think it's about time fans woke up with regards to the board. They're treating us like mugs. The fact the general has gone AWOL on Villa sites, but has the time to speak to students on facebook should tell you something. So much for being busy with his job. The fans who still go in that thread and suck up to him when he clearly doesn't give a shit about what anyone thinks now is the most embarassing part. Have some **** dignity.

These mindless posts don't relate to anyone really.

Most sane people will care about 'whether Randy lerner has a Villa tattoo' about as much as Randy Lerner cares if they themselves have a Villa Tattoo.

Seriously, what are you guys on with?

Im not falling for the PR bollocks. I just never took it seriously in the first place, and therefore dont get upset when theres a chance it could actually be bollocks. Of course their treating us like mugs. Of course they want to make money. They see us coming a mile off. Its their job

As for Makoun, its not worked and I see no problem with getting rid if it allows us to bring someone in that were more likely to use.

FWIW, though, if we don't sign someone else my 'neutral feelings for Randy Lerner will not alter, as I am able to accept that the guy doesn't want to lose money.

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I dont understand how people can say it hasnt worked. Hes never had a proper run in the side to adjust. Hes dominated midfields in the CL.. yet hes not better than Heskey? Mcleish is just clueless.. hence his woeful relegation threatened history. He parks a bus infront of the goal and hopes for the best. Works to get enough points for survival unless you have injuries to key players. Poor move by a poor board.

If randy doesnt replace with quality.. he needs to go.. i dont care what training ground hes built.. whats the point of a good training ground when you have a shit manager with a shit squad.

Ambition is gone.

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Would have liked Makoun to have been tried a little more, but unfortunately Petrov is the stumbling block. A more aggressive midfielder like Parker or an Essien type can support and defend the more skilful distibutors like Makoun and Bannon. With Petrov's name almost certainly one of the first on the team sheet we will be suffering this for at least this season or unless he gets an injury.

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Woody,

I seem to have hit some deep seated nerve with you, regarding denial. Im ever so sorry.

Embarrassing ourselves on the Generals thread?

People are concerned about the club they love, and have a right to ask him questions, however hard. They are afterall paying customers whom actually love the club more than our absent friends seem to do.

No, whats more embarrassing is the odious arse licking that goes on. "Oh General, let me smell your underpants, you are lovely"

The sooner that self centered egotistical buffoons like you, wake up and smell the coffee, we might progress. Otherwise you, may still be licking Randys arse when we are playing the likes of Hull City next term....

"Oh Randy, your doing such a wonderful job"

Just because we have an owner with a Porn star name, does not mean he has the right to treat this great club as a plaything, and its hard pressed supporters as pricks.

Oh, and whilst im at it. If you wish to "embarrass" yourself on the Generals thread, ask him if Randy has heared from a certain Nicholas Padfield over the last month or so!!

Bet you dont get answer, even if he did manage to climb out of his pit.

Thats all im saying on this for now, but please dont get too upset when others like me, point out your living in denial, when it comes to that nice Mr Lerner, with his Villa Tattoo :oops: (Bet you still think hes got one :lol: )

Great post. I think it's about time fans woke up with regards to the board. They're treating us like mugs. The fact the general has gone AWOL on Villa sites, but has the time to speak to students on facebook should tell you something. So much for being busy with his job. The fans who still go in that thread and suck up to him when he clearly doesn't give a shit about what anyone thinks now is the most embarassing part. Have some **** dignity.

These mindless posts don't relate to anyone really.

Most sane people will care about 'whether Randy lerner has a Villa tattoo' about as much as Randy Lerner cares if they themselves have a Villa Tattoo.

Seriously, what are you guys on with?

Im not falling for the PR bollocks. I just never took it seriously in the first place, and therefore dont get upset when theres a chance it could actually be bollocks. Of course their treating us like mugs. Of course they want to make money. They see us coming a mile off. Its their job

As for Makoun, its not worked and I see no problem with getting rid if it allows us to bring someone in that were more likely to use.

FWIW, though, if we don't sign someone else my 'neutral feelings for Randy Lerner will not alter, as I am able to accept that the guy doesn't want to lose money.

Mindless posts and what are you guys on?

Man, you really are full of it.

I mean, your "neutral feelings" for Vampire Lerner, does not stop you and a few other of your lemming mates, jumping down the throats of those that question him, so maybe not so neutral eh?

So get off your high horse, because at the end of the day, you know no more or less than the rest of us, certainly not enough to jump down peoples throats, cos you think you know better....

"Neutral feelings" lol

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Oh, and whilst im at it. If you wish to "embarrass" yourself on the Generals thread, ask him if Randy has heared from a certain Nicholas Padfield over the last month or so!!

Bet you dont get answer, even if he did manage to climb out of his pit.

Thats all im saying on this for now, but please dont get too upset when others like me, point out your living in denial, when it comes to that nice Mr Lerner, with his Villa Tattoo :oops: (Bet you still think hes got one :lol: )

Interesting the guy from the AV06 bid right ..

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On this occasion, no I don't. We have Petrov, Delph, Bannan and Ireland who I'd rather see in the team ahead of him.

ireland has more opportunities, poorer attitude and has done far worse than makoun. in addition he is probably on more wages than makoun

petrov is rubbish, he has been delcining for the last 3 years so im not full of optimism

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I have to say that Makoun is the oldest looking 28 year old black guy I have ever seen. Good luck to him in Greece hope he does well and we get a few quid back for him. Now lets get someone in who will actually contribute.

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