AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted January 10, 2011 Author Share Posted January 10, 2011 Leo Messi is clearly the best player in the world at the moment Said it before and will say it again - I think Messi is nothing without Xavi. Xavi is the playmaker - without him the team really falls apart. But as great a player as Messi is he's not as indispensable to Barca as Xavi. He didn't play other day and Messi scored 1 and created 2 in a 0-4 win at a team that plays with 10 men behind the ball and had conceded just 5 at home all season before that game. It doesn't fall apart, of course losing any world class player affects a team but they wouldn't fall apart. Messi is nothing without Xavi is a joke of a comment really. Of course having Xavi helps any players in the world but Xavi needs the likes of Messi just as much as Messi next Xavi. Xavi is in there to pass the ball beautifully, he needs players who is on his wavelength, providing options, out wide and through the centre, constantly moving. If anything, Xavi needs Barcelona just as much as Barcelona need him. Even he has said it himself, he'd struggle more in a team like Real Madrid. You say Messi not as important as Xavi, well I'd say that's debatable and I think: 21 starts, 5 sub games. 28 goals, 15 assists this season says otherwise. Messi scores goals and he creates goals. He doesn't need perfect passes, he needs the ball and something will happen. Xavi will give him and get the ball to him as much as any other player in the world and that's why he's vital but you put plenty of players in the place of Xavi and Messi will still have ridiculous individual figures because he's a wonderful individual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted January 10, 2011 Author Share Posted January 10, 2011 The winner is: Lionel Messi. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Justice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Good stuff, enjoyed that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted January 10, 2011 Author Share Posted January 10, 2011 I see the votes for Messi have suddenly gone up Tis justice. He's only 23 as well. I'd imagine it's another battle this year between Ronaldo and Messi looking at these first 10 days! Can't see anyone else competing with them two especially without internationals (well big competition) Has anyone ever won it three times in a row? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 As Sneijder has shockingly not been nominated despite playing in all the big finals last year I think Xavi deserves it. HE should have won at least once before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Did anyone seen that woman think her name was Marta or something? GH should send scouts me thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarewsEyebrowDesigner Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 I'd imagine it's another battle this year between Ronaldo and Messi looking at these first 10 days! It'll be Gary Gardner at this rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted January 10, 2011 Author Share Posted January 10, 2011 Or you know who..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legov Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Leo Messi is clearly the best player in the world at the moment Said it before and will say it again - I think Messi is nothing without Xavi. Xavi is the playmaker - without him the team really falls apart. But as great a player as Messi is he's not as indispensable to Barca as Xavi. He didn't play other day and Messi scored 1 and created 2 in a 0-4 win at a team that plays with 10 men behind the ball and had conceded just 5 at home all season before that game. It doesn't fall apart, of course losing any world class player affects a team but they wouldn't fall apart. Messi is nothing without Xavi is a joke of a comment really. Of course having Xavi helps any players in the world but Xavi needs the likes of Messi just as much as Messi next Xavi. Xavi is in there to pass the ball beautifully, he needs players who is on his wavelength, providing options, out wide and through the centre, constantly moving. If anything, Xavi needs Barcelona just as much as Barcelona need him. Even he has said it himself, he'd struggle more in a team like Real Madrid. You say Messi not as important as Xavi, well I'd say that's debatable and I think: 21 starts, 5 sub games. 28 goals, 15 assists this season says otherwise. Messi scores goals and he creates goals. He doesn't need perfect passes, he needs the ball and something will happen. Xavi will give him and get the ball to him as much as any other player in the world and that's why he's vital but you put plenty of players in the place of Xavi and Messi will still have ridiculous individual figures because he's a wonderful individual. Fair enough. I thought the WC was a prime example of how Messi needs someone in the Xavi role though, he did FA against Germany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 If the voting was in old Ballon D'or rules Sneijder would have won Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Interesting stat: Wesley Sneijder only scored one league goal in the calendar year of 2010, and that was on the first weekend in January. (probably why he didnt make the final three ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morley_crosses_to_Withe Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Can't be arsed to start a new thread on this, so I'll just talk about it here - how did Matt Burrows' goal not win the FIFA goal of the year award!! Long shots & volleys etc, we've seen it all before, but how many times have you seen a flying, reverse, looping back heal into the top corner of the net. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shillzz Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Thought Xavi should have had it personally. Would Messi be the first player to win it in a world cup year despite featuring in neither of the 2 big cup finals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Ronaldinho in 2004 not a World Cup year but he didnt play in CHampions League or Copa America final Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Messi is the first player to win it in a World Cup year and not be in the team who won the World Cup since 1994 (Stoichkov won in '94 ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ml1dch Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Can't be arsed to start a new thread on this, so I'll just talk about it here - how did Matt Burrows' goal not win the FIFA goal of the year award!! Long shots & volleys etc, we've seen it all before, but how many times have you seen a flying, reverse, looping back heal into the top corner of the net. Because not enough people voted for it. It was a public vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legov Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Thought Xavi should have had it personally. Would Messi be the first player to win it in a world cup year despite featuring in neither of the 2 big cup finals? That as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted January 12, 2011 Author Share Posted January 12, 2011 Best player should always win it for me. So good choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Sneijder should've won it. Messi is VERY good but he's actually starting to get overrated now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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