drat01 Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 Chris - different teams out there. Milner and McCann are big players for us and the opposition were I would say slightly more up for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisVillan Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 Don't disagree, it's just that I've come to be more confident going into away matches - yesterday cemented that for me. Maybe that's not down to the manager, but there's a problem somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drat01 Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 Isn't it funny that the manager and players have commente about the away support this year and how good it has been. I must admit, and this will upset some people, I think the support at VP is shit. Its quiet, there is a lot of moaning. Now I know people will give examples when thats not been the case, but for me its not just as it should be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisVillan Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 I think the support at VP is shit. I agree with that. I love away games for that very reason. I'm not convinced that should have such a huge effect on the performance of the players, but that's for another day and another thread. I've cast my vote and I'm out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drat01 Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 .......... I've cast my vote and I'm out.Damn have the NOTW been round then? :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisVillan Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 Dammit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 I'm not convinced that should have such a huge effect on the performance of the players, but that's for another day and another thread Agreed. I don't think it's on to blame fans for the team's poor results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villafan306 Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 If anything the team should play to win the fans over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 I'm not convinced that should have such a huge effect on the performance of the players, but that's for another day and another thread Agreed. I don't think it's on to blame fans for the team's poor results. Amen to that! 100% fact Richard. If the team puts in a performance the VP crowd will show their appreciation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downing Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 Is it just me that thinks all threads at the moment eventually turn into ELLIS HATERS V DOL HATERS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurzel Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 Can't I be both? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villafan306 Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 Or maybe neither? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 Is it just me that thinks all threads at the moment eventually turn into ELLIS HATERS V DOL HATERS. Its you. Those divides are what people want to make it. When in actual fact its not that clear cut. I just think that it's unfair to want to blame enything from Ellis to the pitch and all points in between , for the poor results and not even consider the manager Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pelle Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 Agree Rich, and think it's very rare too. To me the biggest issue is how much of the blame DOL should take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisVillan Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 I think it's entirely fair to blame Ellis for everything. I'd be happy to do it if it wasn't letting O'Leary off the hook for things I believe him to be responsible for as manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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