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i dont know what people are getting so wound up for.

before the season loads of people were saying that young might be worth trying in the middle/hole, and he has said himself that he likes it. ok, he might not have perfected the art of playing there yet but he cant be expected to sudenly change position and play like cantona having being out on the wing for the last however many seasons. chill out a bit and have some patience.

We didn't have Ireland when people were saying that. Now we have Ireland, a perfect link player, we don't need to be trying out Ashley in there and subsequently playing 2 players out of position.

in my opinion, i dont see the point of playing two out and out wingers anyway if you arent going to play carew in the middle.

i think we are getting too taken in by the "holding midfielder" thing. its a buzz word of the last few years, it didnt exist until makelele - and barry is the only player in the england team who has effectively done it. in years gone by two central midfielders played together as a unit and one covered the other when he went forward. petrov is actually quite good at going forward but has been pidgeon-holed as a holding player since he came to villa. whats wrong with ireland and petrov playing side by side as any other two central midfielders would have done in the past before the advent of the "makelele role"?

The problem is not Petrov, it's Ireland. He's just not a central midfielder.

what is he then?

he isnt a defender, he isnt a forward and he isnt a winger...

He's an attacking midfielder. Lampard and Gerrard don't play in a 2 man central midfield do they? Why not? Because their managers know how to get the best out of them.

our midfield will line up effectively as a diamond with the two wingers out wide and petrov playing behind ireland. petrov holding, ireland = your attacking mid. its exactly what we are doing today with young up front playing off gabby. we have a four man midfield with two up front. i dont see how anyone is out of position except perhaps young if you think he should play on the wing.

Well we'll see what positions Ireland takes up because he hasn't been playing as an attacking midfielder in any game so far.

Anyway, on with the game.

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Villa goal: I think the watching Gerard Houllier probably likes the looks of that. Ashley Young is fouled 25 yards out and picks himself up to curl a lovely free-kick over the wall and into Adam Bogdan's right-hand top corner. Beauty. from the bbc... I swear the ball went in the bottom corner :P

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