Richard Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 This cockup by MON? Is that rewritingb history to suit a particular viewpoint of blaming MON for everything? Let's just look at the facts of the Delph signing shall we. At the time he was recognised as the best young prospect outside of the top flight, linked with many clubs was in demand and also Man Citeh bid for him at the time. He was THE young player to have and considering that now people are saying that MONs transfer policy was wrong and we should have been signing this young and up an coming players who have a resale value I would say he fitted very much into that category of player. I mean you yourself has saiud this is the type we should be signing here yet now you use it as a stick with which to beat up the Sunderland manager He signed and , as far as I recall, started brightly but then suffered a long term injury which I personally feel has totally stalled his career. Has he developed as well as we would have liked? No Is it "yet another cockup" that we can lay at the feet of the devil Oneill? No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOF Posted February 3, 2012 Moderator Share Posted February 3, 2012 What Richard said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu_The_Villan Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 I cant believe people are saying the lad is finished. These are the same people who are raving about Lichaj after having a half decent season at Leeds. Give him chance to get his fitness and confidence back and we will have a proper player on our hands. Ive seen him do the business for us before but a cruciate injury tends to put that back a fair bit. Writing him off at this stage is madness (but typical of alot of Villa fans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NowDoINotLikeThat Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 This cockup by MON? Is that rewritingb history to suit a particular viewpoint of blaming MON for everything? Let's just look at the facts of the Delph signing shall we. At the time he was recognised as the best young prospect outside of the top flight, linked with many clubs was in demand and also Man Citeh bid for him at the time. He was THE young player to have and considering that now people are saying that MONs transfer policy was wrong and we should have been signing this young and up an coming players who have a resale value I would say he fitted very much into that category of player. I mean you yourself has saiud this is the type we should be signing here yet now you use it as a stick with which to beat up the Sunderland manager He signed and , as far as I recall, started brightly but then suffered a long term injury which I personally feel has totally stalled his career. Has he developed as well as we would have liked? No Is it "yet another cockup" that we can lay at the feet of the devil Oneill? No Agreed and good post. Altho in fairness to McLeish he did give Delph a run in the side this season and frankly did play crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Altho in fairness to McLeish he did give Delph a run in the side this season and frankly did play crap. And in fairness again, you could say that about a lot of players that Mcleish has played this season. I just wish I could work out the common denominator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginko Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Altho in fairness to McLeish he did give Delph a run in the side this season and frankly did play crap. And in fairness again, you could say that about a lot of players that Mcleish has played this season. I just wish I could work out the common denominator Subtle, but what about Gabby and Stephen Ireland? Would that be the same common denominator? That being said, I agree with your post above about Delph and that the blame can't be laid at MON's feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Altho in fairness to McLeish he did give Delph a run in the side this season and frankly did play crap. And in fairness again, you could say that about a lot of players that Mcleish has played this season. I just wish I could work out the common denominator Subtle, but what about Gabby and Stephen Ireland? Would that be the same common denominator? That being said, I agree with your post above about Delph and that the blame can't be laid at MON's feet.Yes there are exceptions , which is why I said "a lot" and not "all" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazdavies79 Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 You cannot deride a manager for a signing you fully endorsed if he doesn't come good. I've always been mixed about the signing, I didn't see the potential at Leeds, I won't be surprised if he doesn't make it. Love it if he did though. Due to the injury situation I think we should give him more time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheltenham_villa Posted February 3, 2012 Share Posted February 3, 2012 Altho in fairness to McLeish he did give Delph a run in the side this season and frankly did play crap. And in fairness again, you could say that about a lot of players that Mcleish has played this season. I just wish I could work out the common denominator Subtle, but what about Gabby and Stephen Ireland? Would that be the same common denominator? That being said, I agree with your post above about Delph and that the blame can't be laid at MON's feet.Yes there are exceptions , which is why I said "a lot" and not "all" Off topic I would say the players that have performed to a reasonable standard under Mcliesh as Given, Clark, Petrov, Ireland, Gabby, Keane and maybe Bent. The issue is the rest of the clowns. On Topic, Delph needs games and confidence, you cant blame the signing, it was common sense that didnt work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 I think I'd move him on in the summer. Much more excited about Gardner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PompeyVillan Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 I try not to write players off too soon but I've never really seen much in Delph. He's always been highly rated which is a reputation that he's lived off for far too long now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Championship club Leeds' on-loan midfielder Fabian Delph has gone back to parent club Aston Villa for treatment on an ankle injury. The 20-year-old, who returned to Elland Road at the end of last month, sustained the injury in the midweek defeat at Coventry. Leeds caretaker-manager Neil Redfearn told the club's official website: "Fab will be out for Saturday. He's gone back to Villa to be assessed, but he's being monitored and we're hoping it will be a case of days. "Fab's a good player. Against Bristol City and Brighton I thought he played well. He's a big influence and he'll be a big loss." Delph's initial loan period is due to expire after the trip to Portsmouth on Saturday week. He has started in all five games for Leeds since returning to the club. http://tinyurl.com/86vqs3m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quizme Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Injured again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 guy is always injured. if someone bid 6m i would sell to be honest. hasnt shown much to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaglint Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 Feel a bit for him Watched highlights of his 1st time at Leeds the other day. Reminded me that there he was an attacking goal scoring midfielder. Not the defensive enforcer we have tried to turn him into. Playing out of position and the major injury have meant he hasn't shown his talent. Of course he has to take some personal responsibility for that too. He has been largely poor this season or below average anyway. Just not sure we are helping him by asking him to play out of position in a really tough league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted February 17, 2012 VT Supporter Share Posted February 17, 2012 Hows he been playing prior to this injury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob182 Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 I still think he could have a future here. But he needs to play in the attacking role we know he can. When Keane leaves, if Ireland is put back into the attacking-mid role, Delph would be decent backup in that position, imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Bear Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 The bottom line is that Delph has showed virtually nothing to justify the hype and price we paid for him. Yes he has had injuries but there are no excused for some of the passing and performances so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eames Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 guy is always injured. if someone bid 6m i would sell to be honest. hasnt shown much to me If someone bid £1m I'd sell. He isn't going to be anything special, we want the wage bill down. Get rid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthEastVillan Posted February 17, 2012 Share Posted February 17, 2012 The thing with Delph is a lot of people claim that if he was played as an attacking player he would be ten times better. From what I have seen moving him further up the pitch would not change his terrible control, wayward passing and lunging tackles. An expensive gamble that didn't pay off. £2m+ and I'd sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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