grobs Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Awful. Holds onto the ball too long every time he has it. Will be better without him in the 11 atm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Needs help in terms of a formation/style of play. Having two wingers with him as defenders isn't ideal. He's still winning all these freekicks though and that's the only way we can score right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakotaDakota Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, blunther said: A request: I think a while ago when it looked like we were losing our jack someone on here did the maths on points per game with and without him in the championship and we had more PPG when he wasn’t playing. Don’t suppose anyone has them to hand...? It surprised me and I just mentioned it to a mate who was also surprised so would be nice to give the stats as a whole. Doesn't include this season but would actually be even worse if it did. All he does is hold onto the ball to try to get fouled & when he doesn't he just gives the ball away. We should have taken the money, He is dogshit. Edited September 15, 2018 by LakotaDakota 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Davkaus Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 He's had a poor start to the season, but he's clearly an incredibly gifted footballer. I think it's fair to say that to justify that £25m+ price tag, he ought to be able to dominate games at this level, and he's completely failed to do that so far. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, Davkaus said: He's had a poor start to the season, but he's clearly an incredibly gifted footballer. I think it's fair to say that to justify that £25m+ price tag, he ought to be able to dominate games at this level, and he's completely failed to do that so far. This is pretty much spot on. Much more to come from him. 'Dogshit' is just absurd hyberbole that isn't worth engaging with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakotaDakota Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 (edited) updated to include this season which now make a full seasons worth of 46 games he has started and both the win percentage & points per game are going down. His 1 assist from a corner in 7 games this season has made a huge difference... Of the 46 games he has started We have Won 18 Drawn 15 & Lost 13 (39.13% win percentage) 1.50 points per game Of the 65 games he has played any part in at all We have Won 24 Drawn 20 & Lost 21 (36.92% win percentage) 1.41 points per game In the 34 games he played no part in at all We have Won 18 Drawn 9 & Lost 7 (52.94% win percentage) 1.85 points per game Have said many times that he is part of the problem, not part of the solution but he's a Villa fan with floppy hair who runs around a lot so people love him. Edited September 15, 2018 by LakotaDakota 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Has anyone played well consistently so far 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blunther Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 (edited) 27 minutes ago, LakotaDakota said: Doesn't include this season but would actually be even worse if it did. All he does is hold onto the ball to try to get fouled & when he doesn't he just gives the ball away. We should have taken the money, He is dogshit. Thanks for finding this - I disagree on the dogshit point but kind of you to dig t out. And thanks also to LakotaDakota for the graft in putting it together! edit: just noticed you are LakotaDakota! Sorry, had a tot tonight (don’t we all need it!) Edited September 15, 2018 by blunther Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 He’s working hard for the team as directed by his manager. He shouldn’t be asked to track and do the dirty work, he’s not a Cm. He needs to be given freedom to go forward. Play as proper number 10, off the front 1/2. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVTuco Posted September 15, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted September 15, 2018 Get your finger out of your a** Jack! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turvontour Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 26 minutes ago, LakotaDakota said: updated to include this season which now make a full seasons worth of 46 games he has started and both the win percentage & points per game are going down. His 1 assist from a corner in 7 games this season has made a huge difference... Of the 46 games he has started We have Won 18 Drawn 15 & Lost 13 (39.13% win percentage) 1.50 points per game Of the 65 games he has played any part in at all We have Won 24 Drawn 20 & Lost 21 (36.92% win percentage) 1.41 points per game In the 34 games he played no part in at all We have Won 18 Drawn 9 & Lost 7 (52.94% win percentage) 1.85 points per game Have said many times that he is part of the problem, not part of the solution but he's a Villa fan with floppy hair who runs around a lot so people love him. Had a feeling the stats would look something like that. He kind of stifles us, oddly. Which is weird considering he is by far and away our most valuable and talented player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vive_La_Villa Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 25 million pounds my arse. Spurs and Levi have dodged a bullet with what we’ve seen so far. must do more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Pretty sure he/we would get more out of his game if we had more movement without the ball and patterns in our play. Still, he must do better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakotaDakota Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 29 minutes ago, blunther said: Thanks for finding this - I disagree on the dogshit point but kind of you to dig t out. And thanks also to LakotaDakota for the graft in putting it together! edit: just noticed you are LakotaDakota! Sorry, had a tot tonight (don’t we all need it!) No problem. Just to give you something to compare it to as Hourihane has also played a part in exactly as many games (this is updated to include this season/today). This is not a small sample that picks & chooses games. It is every single championship game & includes people coming on as last minute subs when we are 2 up etc. Grealish - Of the 65 games he has played any part in at all We have Won 24 Drawn 20 & Lost 21 (36.92% win percentage) 1.41 points per game Hourihane - Of the 65 games he has played any part in at all We have Won 31 Drawn 14 & Lost 20 (47.69% win percentage) 1.64 points per game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiltorken Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Just now, LakotaDakota said: No problem. Just to give you something to compare it to as Hourihane has also played a part in exactly as many games (this is updated to include this season/today). This is not a small sample that picks & chooses games. It is every single championship game & includes people coming on as last minute subs when we are 2 up etc. Grealish - Of the 65 games he has played any part in at all We have Won 24 Drawn 20 & Lost 21 (36.92% win percentage) 1.41 points per game Hourihane - Of the 65 games he has played any part in at all We have Won 31 Drawn 14 & Lost 20 (47.69% win percentage) 1.64 points per game Hard to believe, trying to work out how that might be. I wonder is it just Connors goal threat and Grealishs lack there of because in general play Grealish offers so much more even from a defensive point of view. Those stats have really bamboozled me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troon_villan Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Davkaus said: He's had a poor start to the season, but he's clearly an incredibly gifted footballer. I think it's fair to say that to justify that £25m+ price tag, he ought to be able to dominate games at this level, and he's completely failed to do that so far. This season, yep, that's absolutely fair. He's not getting involved enough but he just needs a goal I think, seems a bit low on confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cjay Posted September 15, 2018 Visiting Supporter Share Posted September 15, 2018 Watched him with interest today. Remembering the stuff in the summer and the price tags being thrown about, some saying he is better then Dele Ali and worth more then James Maddison. Imo he is talented yes, but he is 23 now, no longer a teenager. Over 100 career games, Premier league experience. If he is as good as some think then he should be really dominating games at this level, he should be taking games by the balls and making stuff happen. He doesnt seem to do that, certainly didnt today. The best players at this level raise those around them or make the difference themselves. Can blame Bruce, his teammates etc. Grealish has a great work ethic, but his impact on games isnt good enough for the hype. (Football fans opinion, not a Leeds fan). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 This thread is bonkers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Anyone think if the management and team were better, ALL of them, including him would be better? It can't be motivating having nobody else on the same wavelength as you and in space when you find it anyway. I'm not willing to give him shite under current conditions sorry. That would be almost like admitting every player we have bought over the past 2 seasons magically turn to shite and it has nothing to do with Bruce. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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