Villan4Life Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 (edited) On 26/08/2018 at 19:55, A'Villan said: The only 3 players to go to the WC 2018 for England from clubs outside the top 4 were the 3 goalkeepers. Grealish never stood a chance playing for Villa. Harry Maguire and Jamie Vardy say Hi Edited August 27, 2018 by Villan4Life 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 (edited) What is it with people coming out and spitting crap about Jack Grealish. Paul Lambert is the newest one to spit about Jack, that he will leave the club. They are just doing there best to get it in the media so it reaches jack and get him thinking about it. I think they are doing it just to create tension in villa, I mean there is no other reason for talking about Jack at all, unless it's to cause unrest. If they can't beat him on the field, they are trying to be dirty in other ways and it's very annoying because they can not just let it go and just wait for jack to make those decisions and moves for himself, it's like they think they can think for him.. Edited August 28, 2018 by Dave-R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post villa4europe Posted August 29, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 29, 2018 dont know who planet football are but i quite like this article https://www.planetfootball.com/in-depth/jack-grealish-while-the-hooves-shake-the-ground-he-pirouettes-in-slippers/ Jack Grealish’s collapsed move to Tottenham wasn’t just good news for Aston Villa. It was good news for the player himself and might just be good news for England, too. Players are slotted into categories from the moment they appear. This is the age of the component, after all, with supporters liable to debate best position as determinedly as actual talent. And rightly so, perhaps, because a footballer is nothing without a role in a team. For most of the summer, it was assumed that Jack Grealish would eventually become part of Tottenham’s team. Unfortunately for Mauricio Pochettino, Daniel Levy outsmarted himself, and the pressure on Aston Villa to sell, once threatened by an approaching tax deadline, never actually appeared. By the time Spurs had readied a bid, Villa had been fortified by twin billionaires and Grealish’s asking price had almost trebled. Spurs’ loss, Villa’s gain. Grealish’s too, potentially, because in the days after it became apparent that he was staying, it also became clear that it wasn’t a move he entirely believed in. There may come a time when his future demands a move, but that isn’t now. For the moment, he’s a Birmingham-born 22 year-old, playing for the club he supported as a boy. He seems content; there’s no sulking and all of his toys remain decidedly inside the pram. From the neutral’s perspective, that’s a good thing. Had the transfer been completed, the conversation around Grealish would have immediately changed. He would have become a Pochettino project and, while precedent suggests that might have been beneficial, his literal involvement would have dropped to sporadic substitute appearances and limited opportunities in low-risk situations. The appropriate metaphor being the bottling of something which for the moment isn’t supposed to be constrained. A difference-maker None of this is to say that Grealish is a free-roaming player without description. The false start to his career gave that impression, and the negative headlines his personal life attracted fanned it to an extent, but now more mature and properly fit after suffering semi-serious injury, he has become a refined difference-maker from the middle of the pitch. In time, the question will be whether he’s best served by dropping quite as deep as he does at the moment and, inevitably, some will query how that trait can be accommodated within a Premier League midfield. Last Wednesday night, I was at Villa Park for their game against Brenford, in which the hosts played in pulses. Jonathan Kodja’s late equaliser ended the game on a good note and sent the supporters home happy, but it disguised how inconsistent they were – and provided distraction from some fundamental imbalance. In the week since, Anwar El-Ghazi and Yannick Bolasie have arrived and they’ll certainly make Steve Bruce’s side more dangerous, but Brentford are a good side rather than an excellent one and, on this evidence, promotion looked a tenuous prospect. As to whether Grealish himself belongs in the Premier League that’s just not the point. It’s easy to make a case for him doing so: to look down at the way he caresses the ball and at the risks he’s willing to take with it and to conclude that, yes, this is a gifted player headed for the brightest lights. But maybe that focus should be more abstract at the moment: more what he represents rather than what he is or one day might be. How often does a British player look that comfortable with the ball at his feet? Forget passing success rates and positional discipline, how regularly has the English game bred someone who looks so completely at ease in possession? We’re now starting to emerge from decades of over-coaching; the swell of technical ability within England’s age-group teams certainly suggests that flair is no longer anathema in academies. Nevertheless, Grealish is still an anomaly. His socks-down style and souciant attitude are that of a park footballer, free of professional inhibitions and still playing for fun. It’s an alluring aesthetic. The Championship is a blood and thunder division. It’s home to plenty of ability too, but it has always rewarded physicality and pragmatism more. In an environment within which crosses steeple in first time and the right pass is often long and arrowed towards a rugged centre-forward, Grealish’s willingness to stop and start in possession, to square up defenders and to go past them is a joy. While the hooves shake the ground, he pirouettes in velvet slippers. Last Wednesday, not much went right for Villa. Nevertheless, Grealish had by far the most touches of any player involved in the game and his determination to change its shape never wavered. Most neutrals at Villa Park that night were likely there to see him anyway, but that was such a seductive quality – he kept taking men on, he kept pushing passes forward and, as the crowd grew frustrated and slightly hostile towards the side, he seemed to want the ball more and more. That’s the throwback quality – not the socks, not the hair, but that compulsion to be dynamic. The are other young players in the country who are far easier to project. We know that James Maddison will play for England very shortly, and we can assume that Ryan Sessegnon, Jadon Sancho and Mason Mount will all follow. With Grealish, it’s harder to know. How do you project a future for someone so ethereal? The finding out might be the reward, though, and the journey should be more fun than the destination. For now, just watch. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guyavfc Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Anyone know the words to the new song fans were singing about him? It was to the tune of American Pie and involved lines similar to Levy taking Jack to the cashpoint but his bank account was dry and Grealish being Villa till he dies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 Difficult circumstances but he was very poor yesterday, not for the first time this season. He hasn't brought the best of himself yet and he's not showing premier league quality to say the least. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Difficult circumstances but he was very poor yesterday, not for the first time this season. He hasn't brought the best of himself yet and he's not showing premier league quality to say the least. Agree. Seems to me that Elmo does little to occupy the opposition, and Whelan has company already in what seems to be a positionally restrained McGinni - in the same way CH was when he arrived. Throw in the fact that a Kodja is a mile away, and Jack is too easily doubled up on. It was noticeable how much more effective he looked once CH supplemented the midfield from out right, and Kodja occupied them on the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, terrytini said: Agree. Seems to me that Elmo does little to occupy the opposition, and Whelan has company already in what seems to be a positionally restrained McGinni - in the same way CH was when he arrived. Throw in the fact that a Kodja is a mile away, and Jack is too easily doubled up on. It was noticeable how much more effective he looked once CH supplemented the midfield from out right, and Kodja occupied them on the left. I think he could do with watching James Maddison play. For me he's holding onto the ball too long and playing the wrong passes to often. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: I think he could do with watching James Maddison play. For me he's holding onto the ball too long and playing the wrong passes to often. Again, I agree. But without wishing to bash dear old Brucie, I think the way we set up means he has to hold on to the ball a lot to wait for options. Many of the sides we play against have more running off the ball. So noticeable yesterday how many times a United player would receive the ball, swivel, pass virtually behind themselves, and find a man - they weren’t looking first, they just knew there would be people there. Jack virtually has to play like a Sat Nav. Edited September 2, 2018 by terrytini Replaced ‘volley’ with ‘virtually’. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 4 hours ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Difficult circumstances but he was very poor yesterday, not for the first time this season. He hasn't brought the best of himself yet and he's not showing premier league quality to say the least. Said in mcginn thread. Bruce said he was carrying an injury with mcginn and kodj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poitier Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 On 02/09/2018 at 17:52, Dr_Pangloss said: I think he could do with watching James Maddison play. For me he's holding onto the ball too long and playing the wrong passes to often. I know when it looked like Grealish was going to be sold people were saying if Maddison went for £25m then Grealish was worth at least £30m. Having seen Maddison a few times this season, he looks a snip at that price. They are different types of player, but Maddison has been having a real influence on games in the PL. For all of Jack's obvious talent, I still think there is a question mark about his effectiveness. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blunther Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 (edited) A request: I think a while ago when it looked like we were losing our jack someone on here did the maths on points per game with and without him in the championship and we had more PPG when he wasn’t playing. Don’t suppose anyone has them to hand...? It surprised me and I just mentioned it to a mate who was also surprised so would be nice to give the stats as a whole. Edited September 15, 2018 by blunther Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Should have sold him, not a £25m player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holteend1982 Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Been shite again. Needs dropping. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomaszk Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Of course he is. Bet he feels like a right plonker for staying for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Lot more problems at Villa than Jack at the moment. Maybe he hasnt started well but other more crucial problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troglodyte Posted September 15, 2018 VT Supporter Share Posted September 15, 2018 If we had any real discernible style of play then maybe he'd be producing more. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Totally Bruce-afied. Too much pressure on him because we have zero style of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Hard to play well when the team has no structure. Jack suffers the most because of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czechlad Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 Looks like he has been told to play deeper. Last season he was always next to Kodjia, but he is often behind McGinn now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poitier Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 He needs dropping for a game. Zero penetration, just going sideways. He needs reminding that when it comes to underperforming players we have plenty to choose from. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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