nick76 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 18 minutes ago, Zatman said: If Gabby had a clause and left for say 10 million in 2014 to Arsenal. Would you have had the same anger? If the same circumstances then yes, I think Follyfoot gave a good reply to this. You could say the same about Ian Taylor as well if he had done the same, in the fashion, but he didnt. It's not about ability or about what he has done but but the way it was done. 22 minutes ago, Follyfoot said: It cuts really deep and will continue to do so. He gave the impression he was different with all this my club, my City, brought into the project bollocks. He gave us hope that we had a talent who would stay and become a legend at the club both he and we adore, a club for the first time in years on the way up, we all brought into it but the reality is somewhat different. My Mrs thinks I am nuts not being 'proud' of him because he started with us ffs. I hate him for what he has done to his most loyal of supporters who backed him through thick and thin and I hate him for potentially interrupting my clubs resurgence from the wilderness To reiterate I have no objection of what the has done, as you it the way he weaselled about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post villa4europe Posted September 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 3, 2021 26 minutes ago, tomav84 said: personally speaking, i'm not hurt he joined a better club. that's football. i'm hurt that all the 'my club' stuff he spouted last year, the celebrations when he scored vs blues, etc is now null and void as it's since become evident that he's wanted a move for some time i'm hurt that knowing a move would happen this summer he took 'his club' to the cleaners financially in a bumper contract for his final year i'm hurt that i genuinely believe that he faked, or at the very least exaggerated, the injury he had towards the end of the season so as not to risk being injured for the euros i'm hurt at all the crap he's come out with about how much better the standard is at city, how much better he's become since joining, "that's made my whole year" etc. whether true or not, it's disrespectful for the club he claimed to love i'm hurt that in his own interviews AVFC coaches, current and former, get no credit whatsoever for the player he's become i'm hurt that despite starting last season better than this, he walks into the england set up and he has the cheek to cite that as a reason for him to move despite numerous non-scum 6 players playing in the first 11 and foden barely getting a look in i was indifferent to him at first when he left, and i wished him well. now i cannot **** stand him. i've never hated a former AVFC player before...but i **** loathe the guy. call me bitter, small time, whatever, but can't help it. Sorry to be harsh but I read that as "I'm hurt because I allowed myself to get too connected and was duped..." and that's not grealishs fault that's your own 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 Getting hurt about a bizarre conspiracy theory - that he faked an injury for no obvious benefit - is not a particularly sensible way to spend your energies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 1 minute ago, HanoiVillan said: Getting hurt about a bizarre conspiracy theory - that he faked an injury for no obvious benefit - is not a particularly sensible way to spend your energies. The England manager was also in on this conspiracy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herman22 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 I’m not from Birmingham or the surrounding area so I don’t get the “local lad” aspect of this. First to admit that. But I think Grealish has done what 99.9% of footballers do. They did their best with what they had. He played the local chap, living the dream and playing for his boyhood club. But it’s all a facade, a means to an end. Bigger contracts, bigger endorsements playing on the biggest stage is all he really wanted. And he will tell himself he got what he deserved. I think we all just move on, boo him if you want on his return to VP. Let’s focus on our players, the ones who want to be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 Of the big players that left Grealish is one that I hold few grudges against. Just like Young, Benteke and Barry(ok he **** up his way of leaving) Milner and Downing however ran at the first opportunity yet Milner is bizarrely adored by a majority Actually Delph i was happy to see leave as well because I felt he was crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted September 3, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted September 3, 2021 14 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Sorry to be harsh but I read that as "I'm hurt because I allowed myself to get too connected and was duped..." and that's not grealishs fault that's your own well, its not just that i allowed myself to be connected is it. he literally said numerous times he was a massive villa fan, believed in the project etc etc so why would i not believe that? and there needs to be 2 parties involved for one to be 'duped' so you contradicted yourself there. if it's not jack, who's the 2nd party that 'duped' me? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, tomav84 said: he literally said numerous times he was a massive villa fan, believed in the project Him moving does not prove either of those things untrue though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, HanoiVillan said: Him moving does not prove either of those things untrue though. yeah and he signed a contract and said he wanted to be part of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HanoiVillan Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, nick76 said: yeah and he signed a contract and said he wanted to be part of it. And indeed he was part of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted September 3, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted September 3, 2021 this pretty much echoes my thoughts https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/jack-grealish-aston-villa-england-21473066 Quote There was a real smugness and arrogance to Jack Grealish that was quite distasteful as he sat in a sports hall at St George's Park as he spoke to ITV's Gabriel Clarke ahead of England's 4-0 win in Hungary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWARLEY2 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 I said it the other day . Theres a fine line between confidence and arrogance. And he has done a Carl Lewis and jumped way over it. We all loved him and it turns out he was just a huge prick in reality. But as someone said . He is a brand now . Anything like this creates more talk about Grealish which is what his management team and him want. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HalfTimePost Posted September 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 3, 2021 Awful article from Ashley Preece. The worst article I've ever read. Reads like he spent 6 weeks in the echo chamber of this thread and then made it into an article. What Jack said hurts as a villa fan. But. We all knew it was true. And he hasn't actually said anything bad about Villa. It's just not nice to read. Every bad thing is additional interpretation that's been added onto it by fans afterwards. As for the Article. I don't disagree with Grealish's reply either. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, tomav84 said: this pretty much echoes my thoughts https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/jack-grealish-aston-villa-england-21473066 Mine too. If others on this forum don’t understand our loathing for Jack after reading that piece which is just a sample of some of the stuff then they’ll never understand our viewpoint. It would make any further discussion pointless. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 1 minute ago, HalfTimePost said: Awful article from Ashley Preece. The worst article I've ever read. Reads like he spent 6 weeks in the echo chamber of this thread and then made it into an article. What Jack said hurts as a villa fan. But. We all knew it was true. And he hasn't actually said anything bad about Villa. It's just not nice to read. Every bad thing is additional interpretation that's been added onto it by fans afterwards. As for the Article. I don't disagree with Grealish's reply either. I disagree, I’m not a fan of Preece but this was spot on. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted September 3, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted September 3, 2021 Just now, nick76 said: Mine too. If others on this forum don’t understand our loathing for Jack after reading that piece which is just a sample of some of the stuff then they’ll never understand our viewpoint. It would make any further discussion pointless. agreed and frankly i'm done talking about him. there's 2 camps regarding grealish and i couldn't care less which one anyone else is in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 Preece at best comes across like a jilted lover and at worst like a child 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HalfTimePost Posted September 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, nick76 said: I disagree, I’m not a fan of Preece but this was spot on. I normally like Preece but there is nothing professional about that article. It's a shambles as a piece of writing and reads like the posts in this thread. He may as well have signed off calling him Joe Gresford. Atrocious article which reflects worse on the club than Jacks interview did. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 Just now, HalfTimePost said: I normally like Preece but there is nothing professional about that article. It's a shambles as a piece of writing and reads like the posts in this thread. He may as well have signed off calling him Joe Gresford. Atrocious article which reflects worse on the club than Jacks interview did. Reflects what a lot of Villa fans think, it was spot on and does not reflect badly on the club but highlights how poor Jack has been about this. After all the national media praising him about the move and ignoring us, it’s great that media type gave the other side to it and a view from a lot of the base. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reivax_Villa Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 Poor article and very bitter which represents the current feelings amongst a group of Villa fans towards Grealish. Many fans don’t and never want to understand the business of football. Football is not fantasy, it’s a well marketed product that is sold to the masses. Grealish, like most of the football players are part of it, it’s a business. Everyone needs to move on from this, because it’s becoming very toxic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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