jacketspuds Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 The Reddit “ITK” could be a load of bollocks. I would imagine the account has been deleted because of constant abuse. When you post something like that you are always going to piss off someone. In this case, I’d imagine he has been getting pelters from City fans because he is saying that Grealish is staying. Not unlike Villa fans sending shit to people who are saying that Grealish is leaving. Really hope it doesn’t drag on whatever happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kidlewis Posted July 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2021 Found that we’ve responded to City’s bid 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCollins29 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, jacketspuds said: The Reddit “ITK” could be a load of bollocks. I would imagine the account has been deleted because of constant abuse. When you post something like that you are always going to piss off someone. In this case, I’d imagine he has been getting pelters from City fans because he is saying that Grealish is staying. Not unlike Villa fans sending shit to people who are saying that Grealish is leaving. Really hope it doesn’t drag on whatever happens. Possibly either 1) word has got back to shakespeare and he's been told to delete. 2) getting loads of abuse from villa/city fans 3) he's an absolute fraud and has legged it before the inevitable abuse 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketspuds Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 1 minute ago, GingerCollins29 said: Possibly either 1) word has got back to shakespeare and he's been told to delete. 2) getting loads of abuse from villa/city fans 3) he's an absolute fraud and has legged it before the inevitable abuse Absolutely. The only thing that makes me question number 3 is if this is the same account that posted all the transfer info from last summer before it happened. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan501 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Guys jack is back in uk so now the mind games/ should I shouldn't I fiasco starts. Agent money orientated will want most money zero care for jack but his family imo will be key he will take advise from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummybloke Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 11 minutes ago, ben1505 said: Also. How much do you get per finishing position in the premier league? Estimates from finishing 6th to 11th are between 10 million to 25 million. We'll last season they were. Not sure why we also accept a first offer when pretty much every other club ever didn't, unless there is a buy out clause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 1 minute ago, GingerCollins29 said: Possibly either 1) word has got back to shakespeare and he's been told to delete. 2) getting loads of abuse from villa/city fans 3) he's an absolute fraud and has legged it before the inevitable abuse Think it's 2 to be honest. 1 is also very plausible. 3 too, but his calls last year were too niche to not be ITK. Maybe he's bullshitting this time, but it wouldn't be something to delete the whole account over, because as Sam Lee says, the transfer can happen or it might not (or it's 50/50 as one wise man once put it) and it's looking closer to the former. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 36 minutes ago, Vive_La_Villa said: Fair enough so Grealish going for nearly double what he went for is not fair value? No, the cost of players since his move has close to doubled. Mahrez was an absolute snip at 60 mil as well. I feel in terms of fee the fridge is a more apt comparison at 80 million. But Grealish is twice the player he is and is a villa fan. Besides transfers for top players are almost never worth it for the selling club. Like Grealish is easily worth 30 mil a year. And with 4 years left in his contract he should be worth 120+. He is probably worth at least 40-50 mil a year. So that's close the 180 mil as what would be fair recompense to us based on his merchandising and competitive benefits. Before factoring in the potential that his marketing value will grow which it evidently is currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayEm Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Reddit ITK thing is weird because the guy (assuming someone else hasn't hacked the account!) did call Barkley last year way before anyone else and yesterday said Bailey and JWP were being lined up, and there's been movement or chatter on both of those since. I know you can fake anything if you try but he came across as quite genuine. I don't think anything can be read into him deleting his account. Could be that he's completely right but word got out that he was leaking, could also be that he enjoyed the attention he got last year and wanted more of that and now that serious money is being put down he's freaked out 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano & Dalian's Umbrella Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, GingerCollins29 said: Possibly either 1) word has got back to shakespeare and he's been told to delete. 2) getting loads of abuse from villa/city fans 3) he's an absolute fraud and has legged it before the inevitable abuse With regards to number 1, Daniel Sturridge got banned for 4 months and fined 150k after telling his brother about a transfer which he then bet on. I'm guessing telling loads of people on a forum you got info from Shakespeare, then telling them to bet on it could land Shakespeare in similar hot water. One of his posts was: "5/2 now but i've dropped £20 on it, the most i ever bet, it's free money at this stage" Edited August 1, 2021 by Deano & Dalian's Umbrella 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalfTimePost Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Also searching Wes Edens on Twitter shows that the rumour of him flying to the UK came almost out of thin air. I mean, he should be as it's so important but it feels like it just materialised out of nowhere and caught on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 17 minutes ago, Awol said: It’s only about £2m per place or something. Hamster droppings in premier league terms. 16 minutes ago, ben1505 said: That’s not much is it? Do you get more tv money if you finish higher? 15 minutes ago, Awol said: Yeah, but it’s pretty weak tea in the grand scheme of things You do realise that is a lot of money right. The difference between 17th and 7th is 30+ million. That's about 1/3 of the base TV revenue money. And I also believe you receive an additional fee everytime one of your matches is shown on TV. So again finishing higher begets further money. The fact is Jack is worth so much financially to us that selling him for 100 million would be akin to shooting ourselves in the foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post leighavfc Posted July 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2021 (edited) My lad is going to be in bits over this. He loves Jack.. like we all do of course. I told him about the bid friday and he turned around and said he was mad... he then text me off his moms phone to say I'm so mad I want to swear Genuinely though this will really upset him, in his little world Jack is Villa...he has been lucky enough to meet him and speak to him briefly which he loved and I'm sure will cherish for a long time. He has a painting of him on his wall, his shirt signed by him and him only depiste the rest of players being there.. gutted for him tbh. I'm sure there are many of us on here who will have to explain it to their kids too I've said all along he will go this summer even though I absolutely never want him to go. I'm kind of over it and want it to be confirmed one way or the other. I still hold a glimmer of hope but is rapidly fading by the hour. Its incredibly sad to see him go and will hurt like no other star player leaving but ultimately we will be back at VP in a few weeks cheering the rest of the boys and hopefully some new signings to soften the blow. Will be so weird Jack not being there though and I think it will actually slightly dampen the mood for that first home game back a little. Regardless of how it pans out... Up the f*****g Villa! Edit: it's his birthday Wednesday too Edited August 1, 2021 by leighavfc 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 If you look at the redditor's posts on the Grealish situation they're hardly getting any replies at all, just a few people saying that they hope that they're right, no abuse. My guess would be either that since what they what they wrote earlier they've heard something different, and so have since deleted their account because they don't want people sending them angry messages if/when Grealish leaves. Or perhaps more likely, they've realized that their posts have been getting a lot of attention outside of their normal audience of reddit so have deleted their account because they don't want people going through their posting history, especially if it's true they have some sort of connection to Shakespeare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jacketspuds Posted August 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2021 Looking at the outstanding youth team we have, Grealish has a chance to spearhead something so special over the next few years, which could set this club, his club, up for decades. He has the opportunity to get his beloved Aston Villa to a place where he can come back as a fan and watch us continue to win trophies and challenge in Europe, even after he has retired. That’s why he should stay. It should certainly mean more to him than a handful of medals. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post est1874 Posted August 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2021 I may be a little drunk. But I'm choosing to believe that things will be OK. Jack might stay. Jack might go. Regardless of whether or not he does, Aston Villa Football Club lives on. 3 summers ago we weren't sure of that. We might have been forced to sell him for £20m to pay a tax bill, and even that might not have saved our club. Now, thanks to NSWE, we are back in the PL and have a chance of building a future that's bigger than just 1 player. Is he a generational talent that we've all been immensely proud to be associated with? Yes. Is this the end of anything, one way or the other? No. We carry on. We keep building. UTV. 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Okonokos Posted August 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2021 (edited) At least we still have Whispers to give us clear and concise information. Edited August 1, 2021 by Okonokos 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, MotoMkali said: You do realise that is a lot of money right. The difference between 17th and 7th is 30+ million. That's about 1/3 of the base TV revenue money. And I also believe you receive an additional fee everytime one of your matches is shown on TV. So again finishing higher begets further money. The fact is Jack is worth so much financially to us that selling him for 100 million would be akin to shooting ourselves in the foot. I’m assuming that golden boll*cks is on his toes this summer and our league position will be roughly the same next year, so TV money will be pretty irrelevant in the transfer calculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MessiWillSignForVilla Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Okonokos said: At least we still has Whispers to give us clear and concise information. Absolutely no way he's used the barronwaste comment about Jack doing an ESR as a way to explain why saying he signed a contract weeks ago was bollocks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 That whispers account is another fraud. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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