MotoMkali Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) 53 minutes ago, R.Bear said: Am I misreading this or are you saying you'd rather Villa play good football and not win than win whilst not being entertaining? Doesn't matter because we are entertaining. As long as it doesn't come at the cost of relegation and therefore potentially destroying the club I'd prefer us to play entertaining football than get European football. But again it doesn't matter because we do play entertaining attacking football. But I'm much more pliable with it in regards to villa. I don't feel any particular affinity towards the English national team. Especially since every game we play is boring as hell. It's either against terrible teams with no tension or it is against a competent opponent it's a snoozefest. The one time we actually attacked consistently this tournament it was a 4-0 battering. Maybe if we played like that more consistently. Although 2 goals from set pieces and another the keeper should have saved came down to luck. Edited July 9, 2021 by MotoMkali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRO Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, MotoMkali said: Doesn't matter because we are entertaining. As long as it doesn't come at the cost of relegation and therefore potentially destroying the club I'd prefer us to play entertaining football than get European football. But again it doesn't matter because we do play entertaining attacking football. We do when we have the ball....what about the times when we don't, what do you see then.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 14 minutes ago, TRO said: I will always be Villa First ,England second......but it doesn't stop me rooting for England to win, I will be delighted, if we pull it off. but no recriminations from me if we lose, they have all acted admirably. Come on, England. If we win, all the players should be knighted, not the manager, if we lose I want the manager hung, drawn and quartered. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post foreveryoung Posted July 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) There's no doubt Southgate is doing a job, but I still believe he is holding the team back. Grealish should be a starter no doubt, start on the front foot. Gareth is no genius, despite what the media say, his tactics are basic, defending being the name of the game. The squad is full of flair, Bellingham, Sancho, Grealish etc. I believe we could rip Italy apart, especially in the second half when their old fellas are getting tired, but Southgate is just to safe, an with the difficult sides this'll always lead us to extra time and maybe penalties, which is what we need to avoid. Edited July 9, 2021 by foreveryoung 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Bear Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 21 minutes ago, MotoMkali said: I don't feel any particular affinity towards the English national team. Especially since every game we play is boring as hell. It's either against terrible teams with no tension or it is against a competent opponent it's a snoozefest. The one time we actually attacked consistently this tournament it was a 4-0 battering. Maybe if we played like that more consistently. Although 2 goals from set pieces and another the keeper should have saved came down to luck. You definitely sound about 20 years old which isnt a crime obviously but does explain your posts. 9 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: There's no doubt Southgate is doing a job, but I still believe he is holding the team back. I agree. With a competent manager England would be in the European Championship final having conceded just one goal. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 1 hour ago, sharkyvilla said: The most Brummy gif of all time. I've got a sneaky feeling Jack will start on Sunday. Maybe I'm just imagining the hilarious **** of people's minds it would cause in here. OUW MUOOOUY GUD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveAV1 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 38 minutes ago, Phil Silvers said: If we win, all the players should be knighted, not the manager, if we lose I want the manager hung, drawn and quartered. At full time on the pitch or after a ceremony at Buckingham Palace? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, DaveAV1 said: At full time on the pitch or after a ceremony at Buckingham Palace? Tomorrow for the latter would be splendid 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 (edited) Duplicate post Edited July 9, 2021 by foreveryoung Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maqroll Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 1 hour ago, foreveryoung said: There's no doubt Southgate is doing a job, but I still believe he is holding the team back. It's an interesting conundrum. He is clearly adept at getting his teams to advance deep into tournaments. So by that measure, he is doing quite the opposite of holding the team back. Stylistically however, yes, the argument can be made that he's handcuffed the most creative group of players England have ever had. But ultimately what is more important, results, or artfulness? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 53 minutes ago, R.Bear said: You definitely sound about 20 years old which isnt a crime obviously but does explain your posts. I agree. With a competent manager England would be in the European Championship final having conceded just one goal. Sorry for the comment Mrs Southgate! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villalad21 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Don't like this bromance thing going on between Sterling and Grealish in the England camp. Sign that contract boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adman Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 Southgate said something about needing to keep the ball higher up the pitch or something against Italy or something after the denmark game. Or did he? Don't know. But it might mean that grealish is staring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 14 minutes ago, Adman said: Southgate said something about needing to keep the ball higher up the pitch or something against Italy or something after the denmark game. Or did he? Don't know. But it might mean that grealish is staring. There's more chance of Southgate getting on all fours and letting Jack ride him in a race across the pitch against that little VW car then there is of Jack starting. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mat Kendrick's Dentist Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 18 minutes ago, BleedClaretAndBlue said: Nice. Where's this from mate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loxstock92 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mat Kendrick's Dentist said: Nice. Where's this from mate? Telegraph 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 2 hours ago, maqroll said: It's an interesting conundrum. He is clearly adept at getting his teams to advance deep into tournaments. So by that measure, he is doing quite the opposite of holding the team back. Stylistically however, yes, the argument can be made that he's handcuffed the most creative group of players England have ever had. But ultimately what is more important, results, or artfulness? Artfulness 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdman Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 2 hours ago, maqroll said: It's an interesting conundrum. He is clearly adept at getting his teams to advance deep into tournaments. So by that measure, he is doing quite the opposite of holding the team back. Stylistically however, yes, the argument can be made that he's handcuffed the most creative group of players England have ever had. But ultimately what is more important, results, or artfulness? It's a bit of fear to roll the dice a little and remove one holding midfielder or defender in place of an attacker. Fear of the past perhaps! But if we can actually bring football home on Sunday it might give Southgate confidence to play a little less safe in future and embrace the talent that we have. But honestly, if we can win on Sunday the history books won't care about style or tactics or how we got to the final, it will be a simple one liner... Euro 2020 Winners:...... I won't write it though!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedClaretAndBlue Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, Mat Kendrick's Dentist said: Nice. Where's this from mate? Telegraph 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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