picicata Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 12 hours ago, MotoMkali said: Every time I've watched city. Foden has looked average or bad. I think he is benefitting a lot from the fact his teammates get the vast majority of the attention so when he does something it is almost always in a 1v1 situation. Mount has been Chelseas best player this year. You wouldn't say that about Foden. My step son is a Man City fan so I've seen a lot of City this year and Foden is definitely one of the best players in this league. He is still very young and will continue to develop, he is a joy to watch in the same way that Jack is. I know this is a game of opinions but I am genuinely surprised anyone could watch Foden and not see his amazing talent. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCollins29 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 Jack is currenyly the better player but foden has a higher ceiling 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG_Villa_Fan Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 Manchester Blues can piss off with any Grealish offers, but if they're selling Laporte I'd love him at the Villa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 18 minutes ago, picicata said: My step son is a Man City fan so I've seen a lot of City this year and Foden is definitely one of the best players in this league. He is still very young and will continue to develop, he is a joy to watch in the same way that Jack is. I know this is a game of opinions but I am genuinely surprised anyone could watch Foden and not see his amazing talent. Yeah it's bizarre 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 18 minutes ago, picicata said: My step son is a Man City fan so I've seen a lot of City this year and Foden is definitely one of the best players in this league. He is still very young and will continue to develop, he is a joy to watch in the same way that Jack is. I know this is a game of opinions but I am genuinely surprised anyone could watch Foden and not see his amazing talent. I think they can see his amazing talent Its just the media love this player x vs player y American style stat driven nonsense They're different players both class, can both play in the same team, there's no competition between them, Southgate has to play them both (and Mount) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam2003 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 7 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Its just the media love this player x vs player y American style stat driven nonsense Messi vs Ronaldo the classic example. I think it’s modern society not just the media. You become a ‘fan’ of your own opinion on one player vs another and therefore stick to that point. Same has happened in politics. It’s a very weird trend that even happens with our own players and doesn’t even make sense because form moves around so much - an in-form Douglas Luis is better than Nakamba but an out-of-form DL isn’t - that’s an obvious point but instead of that it just becomes “this player is better, we should sell this player.” Foden is a magical player. So is Grealish. We are lucky to have one of them. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyM3000 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 50 minutes ago, QldVilla said: Don't necessarily agree with this, Kane's age per fee works against him. See City going for Mbappe or Haaland for that type of fee and getting a decade from the player like they did with Aguero. I mean just out of Kane or Grealish if they were the options, they have a lot of wide/creative players and they are lacking a goalscorer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 1 minute ago, Adam2003 said: Messi vs Ronaldo the classic example. I think it’s modern society not just the media. You become a ‘fan’ of your own opinion on one player vs another and therefore stick to that point. Same has happened in politics. It’s a very weird trend that even happens with our own players and doesn’t even make sense because form moves around so much - an in-form Douglas Luis is better than Nakamba but an out-of-form DL isn’t - that’s an obvious point but instead of that it just becomes “this player is better, we should sell this player.” Foden is a magical player. So is Grealish. We are lucky to have one of them. Its Wikipedia scouting, the stats available means that you no longer have to actually watch or understand football in order to have an opinion You're spot on with the form comment 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulberto21 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 The way Foden wriggles away from tight situations is majical. The way Jack glides past players is also majical. If Parsnip nose doesn't play both I'm nicking his waistcoat. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 3 hours ago, bannedfromHandV said: I assume you didn’t watch the villa - City game then a couple of months ago where he ran us ragged, scored a great goal and frustrated Cash so much he got sent off. Strange opinion to take. I did watch it. Cash's sending off was pure stupidity nothing more. You're on a yellow you don't make that challenge. It wasn't even any skill from foden. Cash lost the ball and went in with a reckless challenge. My summary of foden from that game. Got a lucky bounce to beat cash that commentators came for. Tried the same Crossfield pass 10 times, he completed it once (although tbf it did lead to his goal). His goal was a relative tap in. I don't really see how it can be described as no look as he was clearly just following the ball with his eyes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreveryoung Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 3 hours ago, Zatman said: This is a bit of how the overhype starts on Foden, he has had a very good season but he hasnt had the impact of Dias, Gundogan, Cancelo, Rodri or De Bruyne this season he is a very good player but he probably wont be up for the Manchester City Player of the Season He is not over hyped, he is a very very good player and just 21. Hard for me to say but he's not 2nd to Grealish, I would say more of a goal threat. To be a starter for one of the best teams in the world in a Champions League final at 21 with the likes of De Bruyne, Cancelo, Gindogan is not over hyped either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCollins29 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 17 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: He is not over hyped, he is a very very good player and just 21. Hard for me to say but he's not 2nd to Grealish, I would say more of a goal threat. To be a starter for one of the best teams in the world in a Champions League final at 21 with the likes of De Bruyne, Cancelo, Gindogan is not over hyped either. I suppose its the age old question, if u swapped foden and grealish, would they still reach their current levels. Imo, foden no, grealish would absolutely run riot 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 34 minutes ago, foreveryoung said: He is not over hyped, he is a very very good player and just 21. Hard for me to say but he's not 2nd to Grealish, I would say more of a goal threat. To be a starter for one of the best teams in the world in a Champions League final at 21 with the likes of De Bruyne, Cancelo, Gindogan is not over hyped either. I didnt say he was overhyped, I said its how it starts. Foden is a brilliant talent and had a breakout season but he hasnt been the shining light on the City team as you suggested. They still win the title without Foden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidcow Posted May 31, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted May 31, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, GingerCollins29 said: I suppose its the age old question, if u swapped foden and grealish, would they still reach their current levels. Imo, foden no, grealish would absolutely run riot Yes, it's really hard to compare, the amount of amazing work Jack does which ends up wasted because all our other players with all due respect are nowhere near his level, and teams can double even treble up on him Foden will always benefit from amazing passes to him from visionary, brilliant players who are also waiting for him to deliver a pass to them. No one can double up on him because that's suicide with their other threats. They are definitely both brilliant players but it's hard to say whose best when they are playing in 2 teams which are currently world's apart. Edited May 31, 2021 by sidcow 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 2 hours ago, MotoMkali said: I did watch it. Cash's sending off was pure stupidity nothing more. You're on a yellow you don't make that challenge. It wasn't even any skill from foden. Cash lost the ball and went in with a reckless challenge. My summary of foden from that game. Got a lucky bounce to beat cash that commentators came for. Tried the same Crossfield pass 10 times, he completed it once (although tbf it did lead to his goal). His goal was a relative tap in. I don't really see how it can be described as no look as he was clearly just following the ball with his eyes. I have no idea which game you watch/watched but I couldn’t disagree more. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 1 hour ago, bannedfromHandV said: I have no idea which game you watch/watched but I couldn’t disagree more. bizarre I know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAMAICAN-VILLAN Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 6 hours ago, nick76 said: I can’t believe this website sometimes... we have Villalad21 saying he doesn’t think much of Haaland recently and now you think Foden this season has looked average or bad when you’ve seen him. I can’t take you seriously, sorry. I've called this out many times mate. Bizarrely, people think they can't acknowledge or big up other top young English players, as if it is a disservice to Jack. Some of the non sensical comments I read are truly cringe worthy. People will watch ONE game where a player either has a quiet performance and/or is nullified, then decide that is the scouting report complete. LMAO Regardless of logic or opinion by seasoned pros over a number of years. ( Or fact, for that matter ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
useless Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 I remember last summer when people on here were calling Grealish overrated and saying we'd only get thirty or forty million for him. Just because people might be of the opinion that Grealish is better than some other player, that doesn't mean to say that they think that that other player isn't very good, Grealish is so good that a player can not be as good as him and still be a phenomenal talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MotoMkali Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 (edited) 48 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: I've called this out many times mate. Bizarrely, people think they can't acknowledge or big up other top young English players, as if it is a disservice to Jack. Some of the non sensical comments I read are truly cringe worthy. People will watch ONE game where a player either has a quiet performance and/or is nullified, then decide that is the scouting report complete. LMAO Regardless of logic or opinion by seasoned pros over a number of years. ( Or fact, for that matter ) I rate mount. I think he's a lot better than foden. And saka. I think being the best attacking/creative player on your team means a lot more than being 5th option. (With De bruyne, Mahrez, Bernard Silva, Gundogan and Sterling) Edited May 31, 2021 by MotoMkali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 1 hour ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: I've called this out many times mate. Bizarrely, people think they can't acknowledge or big up other top young English players, as if it is a disservice to Jack. Some of the non sensical comments I read are truly cringe worthy. People will watch ONE game where a player either has a quiet performance and/or is nullified, then decide that is the scouting report complete. LMAO Regardless of logic or opinion by seasoned pros over a number of years. ( Or fact, for that matter ) You can tell when someone doesn't really watch a lot of football. Their opinions on players are based on when they play Villa and big games they see on the telly like England or CL games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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