sir_gary_cahill Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 minute ago, theboyangel said: Fixed for you I have to say SGC, for all the OTT love you have bestowed upon the likes of Ethan Moore, Delfouneso and Hepburn-Murphy you have never really got behind Grealish - who was clearly the most talented player coming through from academy for many many years. did he sleep with your significant other/mother or knock you back or something? Check the beginning of this thread, he is a fantastic player with great natural ability but he is only 24 years old, he has achieved nothing yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brommy Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said: When 2 clubs come to an agreement to a transfer That is most likely to be achieved by Villa overvaluing and the bidding club(s) undervaluing before meeting somewhere in the middle. Whilst Jack has a significant length of his Villa contract remaining, it’s possible the ‘accurate’ valuation by your definition is not obtainable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said: Check the beginning of this thread, he is a fantastic player with great natural ability but he is only 24 years old, he has achieved nothing yet Mbappe, Joao Felix, Haaland....shall I keep going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, brommy said: That is most likely to be achieved by Villa overvaluing and the bidding club(s) undervaluing before meeting somewhere in the middle. Whilst Jack has a significant length of his Villa contract remaining, it’s possible the ‘accurate’ valuation by your definition is not obtainable. I thought I was on to something there, you shot me down, thanks for doing so 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 15 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said: Check the beginning of this thread, he is a fantastic player with great natural ability but he is only 24 years old, he has achieved nothing yet I did this, lots of talk around Adam Johnson and under 16’s... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, nick76 said: Mbappe, Joao Felix, Haaland....shall I keep going. Please do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 minute ago, It's Your Round said: I did this, lots of talk around Adam Johnson and under 16’s... Did it amuse you or scare you? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said: Please do Players who are young, hadn’t proved anything, had potential but went for huge fees as I said in my prior post today....just like Jack Edited May 17, 2020 by nick76 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Silvers Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 If Jack has no faith in NWSE CP and Deano then he will be off, if he does and we stay up the only other shirt he will ever wear is an England shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 44 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said: Did it amuse you or scare you? Scare mostly with a little side helping of hind-sighted disgust. I’d have elaborated in my post but my dinner was about to be served 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Your Round Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 30 minutes ago, Phil Silvers said: If Jack has no faith in NWSE CP and Deano then he will be off, if he does and we stay up the only other shirt he will ever wear is an England shirt. That’s the spirit. I’m of a similar view. We need to stay up and show we mean business. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurru991 Posted May 17, 2020 Visiting Supporter Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 hour ago, nick76 said: Why would we ask for less? We don’t need to sell him. If clubs have less money to spend that’s their issue. We aren’t fitting around their budgets. Only clubs that are struggling for money will have to sell their players cheaper, we aren’t in that boat. Not sure that I said to ask for less ! I just said i don't know what player values will be this coming window. As to Jacks value I believe he is top end but how everything plays out will depend on you guys avoiding relegation. If you go down & Jack whispers that he wants to move on it will change your bargaining position drastically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, gurru991 said: Not sure that I said to ask for less ! I just said i don't know what player values will be this coming window. As to Jacks value I believe he is top end but how everything plays out will depend on you guys avoiding relegation. If you go down & Jack whispers that he wants to move on it will change your bargaining position drastically. Why? We are more likely to sell but we are unlikely to ask for less, we don’t need the money and Jack still has 3 years left on his contract and unlikely to throw his dolls out of the pram even if he tries to force a move. Our bargaining position in terms of value doesn’t change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurru991 Posted May 17, 2020 Visiting Supporter Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 minute ago, nick76 said: Why? We are more likely to sell but we are unlikely to ask for less, we don’t need the money and Jack still has 3 years left on his contract and unlikely to throw his dolls out of the pram even if he tries to force a move. Our bargaining position in terms of value doesn’t change. I beg to differ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, gurru991 said: I beg to differ. Thanks, you’re wrong but that’s ok 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurru991 Posted May 17, 2020 Visiting Supporter Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 hour ago, nick76 said: Thanks, you’re wrong but that’s ok Trust me on this. I've been wrong many time before & will be again. And I'm ok with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted May 17, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted May 17, 2020 Love sunday news...even in the apocalypse! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-R Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Not a selling club any longer and if clubs want our players then they will have to pay what our Owners asking price, I've said it ever since NSWE came in and my stance remains the same. Why on earth would we sell Jack for peanuts when hes clearly ahead of most in what he does on the pitch and his stats say the same??? Do we want our club having England players again or internationals, then again we would be mad to sell our players for peanuts, so yes the media is trying to downplay it all by saying Grealish at 80 mill is madness and some fans going nuts saying at crazy that we want that much for our player. If it was other way round though like utd selling pogba then they too would no doubt be asking top dollar for him. I dont think any club will come and pay that, well at least I hope they dont, we should however have high expectations of a Jack sale and demand as much as we can. We know hes worth more than a mere 80 mill, which is nothing to us compared to what we will miss on the pitch from him, hes the lad that keeps us alive, the blood flowing, those moments when weve hit abit of rough spot and Jack comes along and turns the magic on. IFJack leaves then for a while clubs know we will have a heck of a bad time, he is the main cog amongst the other cogs and if they remove him, they know we wont ever replace him. Keep Jack and start spending on some decent players, much better than what we have, if we dont then we may as well drift away and sell Grealish, I'd be concerned about how we spend 80 million to replace Jack firstly, secondly who do we buy to put around the guy weve just replaced Jack with, 80 mill doesnt go far not on the talent we would want. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 13 hours ago, gurru991 said: Not sure that I said to ask for less ! I just said i don't know what player values will be this coming window. Player values don't change The amount of money clubs have got to spend might change We say he's worth £80m, man utd say cos of corona and FFP they only have £50m to spend then I don't see how that becomes our problem and results in us selling him for less 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick76 Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 10 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Player values don't change The amount of money clubs have got to spend might change We say he's worth £80m, man utd say cos of corona and FFP they only have £50m to spend then I don't see how that becomes our problem and results in us selling him for less Totally agree, that’s why I don’t understand why some people across the board are saying transfer fees will come down, why? The selling clubs aren’t going to lower their prices unless they have to because they need the money. Yes, this may result in less transfers that are of big fees but won’t reduce the price of big fee transfers that do happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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