Stevo985 Posted March 30, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted March 30, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, DCJonah said: Because people are desperate to play it down because he plays for us. I find that ridiculous. I said it's not a huge leap to suggest drink was involved. Not sure how that displays desperation. Not desperate to be right. As I've said multiple times its more about this childish obsession with dismissing these sorts of acts because he's our captain. I don't think he deserves that. I think it's a sad part of society that people like him get that where others don't. He's done a shitty thing and should be called out on it. Yeah thanks for your congratulations. Like I said, I had you down as better. You had me down as being annoyed someone was proud to be right about something like this? sorry about that. the amount of people liking my posts or replying with similar would suggest I wasn’t the only one annoyed by your posts. anyway I’ll leave it now. Just venting edit: also I don’t understand why you can’t see the difference between villa fans WANTING this not to be true, and you seemingly wanting it to be true. Nobody is defending what he’s done. Plenty of people didn’t want it to be true and wanted to wait until facts came out before crucifying him. I don’t understand why you have such a problem with that. Edited March 30, 2020 by Stevo985 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 Just now, DCJonah said: Because he plays for your club. or because crucially there is no proof at this stage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post markavfc40 Posted March 30, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2020 (edited) 26 minutes ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said: Jack is a brilliant footballer, but has there ever been anything else you've seen, interviews etc, which made you think he was intellectually "sharp"? Lol He's often been compared to Beckham, but while Beckham could be a prick on the pitch, lifewise he has kept his nose clean, same for the likes of Ronaldo, Lampard, Gerrard etc. I see Beckham and Ronaldo mentioned here but they had a strong manager in Ferguson to instill discipline in them from an early age and Ferguson was a consistent in their development. Grealish since breaking though 5 and half years ago has had Lambert, Sherwood, Garde, Di Matteo, Bruce, Smith and a couple of caretaker managers. He is the big fish in the pond round here. Not just within the club but within the whole of midlands football and has recently been lauded nationally. There is zero doubt he has a fair bit of billy big bollocks about him but that is what contributes to making him the player he is so you don't want to knock that out of him. What he needs is discipline and that may need to come from elsewhere and ultimately from within. If people want to see the above as making excuses for him so be it. Having said the above though there is zero doubt he has been a right idiot and he clearly knew better as hours before he did what he did he put out the video around the need to stay in. He'll get plenty of persecution and hopefully that in itself will help him learn a lesson and he can do what many of us have done in our lives, mess up, learn from it and be a better person going forward. For his sake, and ours for as long as he remains here, I hope he can do that. Edited March 30, 2020 by markavfc40 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Zatman said: I dont think anybody is backing him well not on here, I think people are defending against the alleged drink driving and drug allegations I’ve not read thread but I guess it depends what you mean by “ backing” him. Hes wrongly broke the Lockdown Rules and Club Rules and will rightly be punished. I’m not sure agreeing that that is appropriate is not backing him. As a player I’m backing him as much as I ever did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, DCJonah said: And the people I was responding to were not. They were suggesting he was on his way to a training session. That he might not have been driving. That his car may have been stolen. That it was all a rumour started by a bluenose. The clue is “might”. Stevo is bang on, but each to their own. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 10 minutes ago, Zatman said: Steven Gerrard who beat up a DJ for not playing his song Slip, slidin' away? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okonokos Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Zatman said: or because crucially there is no proof at this stage That's exactly what I was trying to say earlier and I got accused of not criticising him purely because he plays for the club I support. I prefer to wait for evidence before accusing someone of something illegal. Accusing someone falsely of drink driving or drug abuse is slanderous. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 Right well I now have read some of the thread .....goodness me !! I genuinely hadn’t realised how outraged some are/ were. I confess to not being. Bloke does bad thing, get him punished and carry on. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 Well if he was drunk it looks like he's got away with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, bobzy said: The clue is “might”. Stevo is bang on, but each to their own. Shock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, Zatman said: or because crucially there is no proof at this stage So I wouldn't accuse him, even though I think it's likely. But theres enough there that I wouldn't jump to his defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, DCJonah said: Shock You’re right - probably not entirely shocking you’ve gone for the internet points victory. I do regret getting involved in your posts again Edited March 30, 2020 by bobzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Wainy316 said: Well if he was drunk it looks like he's got away with it. With what ? Being drunk isn’t a crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: You had me down as being annoyed someone was proud to be right about something like this? sorry about that. the amount of people liking my posts or replying with similar would suggest I wasn’t the only one annoyed by your posts. anyway I’ll leave it now. Just venting edit: also I don’t understand why you can’t see the difference between villa fans WANTING this not to be true, and you seemingly wanting it to be true. Nobody is defending what he’s done. Plenty of people didn’t want it to be true and wanted to wait until facts came out before crucifying him. I don’t understand why you have such a problem with that. Haha the 4 people I've argued with on here and Alex Bruce. Oh well I can live with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 1 minute ago, bobzy said: You’re right - probably not entirely shocking you’ve got for the internet points victory. I do regret getting involved in your posts again Haha yeah I'm sure you do. You only kept responding to posts not aimed at you mulitple times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wainy316 Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, terrytini said: With what ? Being drunk isn’t a crime. At the time of the crash obvs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudevillaisnice Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 Only sorry he got caught. Very disappointing but looking at his history it’s not really surprising. Don’t think he will ever learn personally but it is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCJonah Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, terrytini said: Right well I now have read some of the thread .....goodness me !! I genuinely hadn’t realised how outraged some are/ were. I confess to not being. Bloke does bad thing, get him punished and carry on. I think if he'd done this 6 months ago the response would be different. It's a different world right now though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okonokos Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, DCJonah said: So I wouldn't accuse him, even though I think it's likely. But theres enough there that I wouldn't jump to his defence. Most people were saying it looks bad but let's wait for the facts rather than rely on hearsay. That is very different to rushing to his defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrytini Posted March 30, 2020 Share Posted March 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Wainy316 said: At the time of the crash obvs So if he was drunk, and if he was in charge of the car, and if he doesn’t get prosecuted, he’s got away with it. Yes I guess so. Seems an odd train of thought to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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