Stevo985 Posted February 26, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted February 26, 2020 24 minutes ago, Tom13 said: I don't think many could make both Jack and Maddison work in a midfield three. Maddison lacks work rate. I know Grealish works hard but you'd want him in the 8 role. Play Jack wide then like he does for us and drop Sancho as cover for Sterling (or vice versa). Or put an extra man / different man in midfield to make up for the lack of workrate. Maddison and Grealish are possibly (and certainly potentially) the two best players England have. It could and should work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 27 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: Play Jack wide then like he does for us and drop Sancho as cover for Sterling (or vice versa). Or put an extra man / different man in midfield to make up for the lack of workrate. Maddison and Grealish are possibly (and certainly potentially) the two best players England have. It could and should work. Well yeah they could definitely be in the same XI, hence why I said I don't think they'd work in a midfield three. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 (edited) Unpopular opinion but Henderson is quality He has 2 very comfortable ball playing CBs who don't need him back there, he has 2 playing out of their skin bombing forward full backs who do need him to cover in a system that requires a high press and tempo and then with the ball he has a team around him that like to keep it play it simple then spark in to life requiring it to go forward quickly often wide Its a system that would suit England and he would be key to it Him ox and Jack would probably be my first choice midfield 3 Just knowing where to be all the time is an underrated skill from a holding midfielder, Drinkwater for example for all his faults and lack of fitness is better than Luiz and Nakamba at it when we have the ball Bringing it back to jack it's a skill he has too, knows where to be and how to both get in to space and create space for others Edited February 26, 2020 by villa4europe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 19 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Unpopular opinion but Henderson is quality He has 2 very comfortable ball playing CBs who don't need him back there, he has 2 playing out of their skin bombing forward full backs who do need him to cover in a system that requires a high press and tempo and then with the ball he has a team around him that like to keep it play it simple then spark in to life requiring it to go forward quickly often wide Its a system that would suit England and he would be key to it Him ox and Jack would probably be my first choice midfield 3 Just knowing where to be all the time is an underrated skill from a holding midfielder, Drinkwater for example for all his faults and lack of fitness is better than Luiz and Nakamba at it when we have the ball Bringing it back to jack it's a skill he has too, knows where to be and how to both get in to space and create space for others I think Henderson is excellent, wouldn’t you put Maddison in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Tom13 said: Well yeah they could definitely be in the same XI, hence why I said I don't think they'd work in a midfield three. Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 1 minute ago, sir_gary_cahill said: I think Henderson is excellent, wouldn’t you put Maddison in? But not Grealish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Mazrim said: I think if you had Kalvin Phillips screening the back 4 it could work. Jack has high workrate and Maddison is busy enough to disrupt, with Grealish marauding forward more. But if it's one or the other you **** Maddison off in the blink of an eye. Maybe Loftus-Cheek instead. Good shout about Loftus-Cheek, he’s not getting game time at Chelsea. If Grealish goes in the Summer then, I’d take Loftus-Cheek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Just now, bannedfromHandV said: But not Grealish? I never said he wasn’t excellent, I just don’t think he’s world class yet, he has the potential to be though, same goes for Maddison 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 5 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said: I think Henderson is excellent, wouldn’t you put Maddison in? Maddison or Jack Maddison fits the current shape and style better Jack fits what I think England's shape and style should be better Depends what Southgate wants (I think he wants get it forward in to sancho sterling and kane as fast as possible) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 10 minutes ago, sir_gary_cahill said: Why not? I've already explained it mate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 After Kane and arguably Sterling, Jack is England's best player. I'd be stunned if he doesn't get picked in March. He should be starting in the Euros. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 He might be Billy big bollocks but sancho is quality If he's fit he starts Jack can play out of his skin and still won't get a start in the front 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farlz Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 I personally think LW Grealish is far better than CM/8 Grealish and it's a shame because once he's gone from Villa he'll end up going back to a CM role which I don't think is best for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom13 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 22 minutes ago, Farlz said: I personally think LW Grealish is far better than CM/8 Grealish and it's a shame because once he's gone from Villa he'll end up going back to a CM role which I don't think is best for him. To be honest, I think he's equally as good in both roles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Free David Silva role Jack is best. He's better in LW because he's further forward and has more of a free rein than in CM. If you fully release the shackles and play him behind the striker with a good midfield behind him, he'd be otherworldly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted February 26, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted February 26, 2020 3 hours ago, villa4europe said: Unpopular opinion but Henderson is quality He has 2 very comfortable ball playing CBs who don't need him back there, he has 2 playing out of their skin bombing forward full backs who do need him to cover in a system that requires a high press and tempo and then with the ball he has a team around him that like to keep it play it simple then spark in to life requiring it to go forward quickly often wide Its a system that would suit England and he would be key to it Him ox and Jack would probably be my first choice midfield 3 Just knowing where to be all the time is an underrated skill from a holding midfielder, Drinkwater for example for all his faults and lack of fitness is better than Luiz and Nakamba at it when we have the ball Bringing it back to jack it's a skill he has too, knows where to be and how to both get in to space and create space for others He is quality. I was just concerned at the workrate he'd need to cover for Jack and Maddison in a three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 21 minutes ago, Stevo985 said: He is quality. I was just concerned at the workrate he'd need to cover for Jack and Maddison in a three. Depends if you push the wing backs up too, with TAA you’ve got to assume the answer is yes so the answer will be Henderson plays, jack and Maddison wont the next problem is whether or not he’s adventurous enough to put ox in there, or loftus cheek, or winks higher up rather than rice as an out and out DMC my problem with rice is that i don’t think he wants the ball enough, for all his faults drinkwater shows for the ball more than rice, it’s part of why our possession will be bad vs a decent team, whether or not Phillips has that skill I don’t know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenjiOgiwara Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 I really hope he stays whatever happens. But if moving on is the important bit to him, I just hope it's not Man Utd. Anyone but that club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 1 hour ago, KenjiOgiwara said: I really hope he stays whatever happens. But if moving on is the important bit to him, I just hope it's not Man Utd. Anyone but that club. I mean he'll be aiming higher regardless, but as funny as it sounds, he won't get in their team. Bruno Fernandes is their ACM now and Rashford as that LW spot sewn up. It might depend on if Pogba stays, if he does the attacking #8 spot is taken as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hawk Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 48 minutes ago, KenjiOgiwara said: I really hope he stays whatever happens. But if moving on is the important bit to him, I just hope it's not Man Utd. Anyone but that club. Am I the only one who’s not fussed where he goes? He’s either playing for us or he isn’t. Whilst I think he can play at the very top, if his choice is United then I dont begrudge him that, he’s earnt the right to go where he chooses in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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