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It’s harsh on Grealish but I think when an international manager knows certain players and they are doing well for their teams. It’s hard to drop any of them.  Plus it’s too soon after his injury so better for Villa that he will be fresh for Newcastle.
 

Jack continues to work hard for us he will be called up eventually.

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Yeah no reason to be butt hurt about this. It's England's loss not ours, or Jack's for that matter. 

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3 hours ago, abdulaziz1 said:

I think they’ll soon get called, Southgate is coming to a lot of our games so far. Ings is already playing, Heaton is in England. So only Grealish and Targett actually left.

 

Danny Ings didn’t make the squad mate. He’s playing well though, probably better than Kane so another mistake by Southgate and also not a typo from you:

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1 hour ago, Hobbit Feet said:

Danny Ings didn’t make the squad mate. He’s playing well though, probably better than Kane so another mistake by Southgate and also not a typo from you:

I don't want to talk about things I'm not sure about, As I only follow Villa players (or those who I have in my fantasy lol).

But you  can't compare Ings  with   Jack or Maddison. Those two have hype and most people  recognize their potential. While Ings been around for a while and he's not more than a Darren Bent, a good poacher but nothing spectacular.  If he goes to England, then he's a good choice to have, if he don't, then nothing much will change. Even if he's playing better now than Kane, its not that he's a better choice.

To be honest, I don't follow a lot of international football too, I want England to make good because of my English friends, but I usually try and follow every game that has Villa players in (which was Delph debut I think 2014 or so).

I'm not defending Southgate, as I'm not sure whats preventing him from giving players chances. I don't think he's proving his value so far. But no one can deny that what he done in the WC was one of the best in England history (well, many times bad luck was the case, for example 2002).

I don't even think that Deschamps himself is convincing in France anyway. Sometimes players could help the manager. But once you're achieving, you can't do anything with it, even if you have you're concerns.

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9 hours ago, SirSteveUK said:

I expect Jack to be called up as a late replacement for an injured or unfit player

 

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is it a simon cowell tactic by Southgate?.....The London media/show biz scene does get to them.

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Maddison has brought shame on the jersey by pulling out injured and then turning up in a casino giving it the big one splashing cash in front of the fans.

His inclusion is just as strange as hudson odoi Who is just another flash in the pan winger with a double step over. (ravel morrison, shaun wright phillips, trevor sinclair)

Its corruption on a new level. bring back graham kelly

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I mentioned after the Brighton match that Jack was a nailed on member of the next England squad so I take full responsibility, so sorry lads and er.... sorry Jack 😓

But on a serious note, I think we all thought that this was his time for selection and I am pretty baffled that Southgate has decided to overlook him again even after watching some of his fine recent performances.

The injury he sustained last time out would have been the only reason for the England manager leaving him out.. IMO, though it could be a bit of a blessing in disguise (from a Villa perspective) that he can now rest up after the Wolves game.

It is ridiculous to compare him to Delph who is a completely different player, but the question for me is do we really need Delph in this squad for these up and coming games, when we have Rice and Henderson - It was the prefect opportunity to have a look at Jack on the International stage and see what he can bring to the party - which as Villa fans, we all know - The ability to carry the ball, glide past players nonchalantly, pick a pass, draw fouls ETC... He really is different to practically every other player in the squad bar possibly Maddison. 

I may be biased, well there is no maybe about it, I AM biased, we probably all are on this topic, but he would be one of the first names in the squad for me, behind the obvious ones in Sterling and Kane - he just would give us something extra to our play.

As for Southgate, I think he has done a decent job overall, blending in younger players and trying a decent style of football but I am not one of these that would get carried away with being World Cup Semi Finalists, in 90 minutes we beat Tunisia (last minute), Panama and Sweden! Any decent opposition and we came up short, therefore Jury still out!

Back to Jack - A nice goal and victory at Molineux would be just the tonic!

 

 

 

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47 minutes ago, screwdriver said:

Maddison has brought shame on the jersey by pulling out injured and then turning up in a casino giving it the big one splashing cash in front of the fans.

Yes, I had expected him to miss out on this squad due to that, but he's there again and so is that tired old snake, but there is still no room for our Jack. I know that Southgate is spoilt for choice in the middle, but he does seem to be looking for any sort of reason not to pick Jack. 

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Smith says he is 50/50 for Wolves and hasn’t trained yet, so seems unlikely he’ll play.

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Knew this would be the case. Trying to make out it's an innocuous injury and he'll be back for Liverpool and has trained, then saying he hasn't trained and won't until Thursday and now saying he's 50/50 for Sunday. Can't they just tell the truth and put us out of our misery. I genuinely fear he could be out for a while as this is how it started when he was out last year.

 

If that is the case that's us ****ed.

 

 

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2 hours ago, screwdriver said:

Maddison has brought shame on the jersey by pulling out injured and then turning up in a casino giving it the big one splashing cash in front of the fans.

His inclusion is just as strange as hudson odoi Who is just another flash in the pan winger with a double step over. (ravel morrison, shaun wright phillips, trevor sinclair)

Its corruption on a new level. bring back graham kelly

He was sent home as he had the flu & the concern was other players getting sick.

Nothing says you can't go to the casino when you are under the weather.

Was it the best move after being sent home ? Probably not but really not shameful.

 

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Well, he may well miss Sunday but the international break is just what we need to nurse him back to full fitness (I hope).

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2 hours ago, villalad21 said:

At least we'll have an excuse ready lf losing then.

We need to find ways of coping without Grealish, personally I thought we looked better as a team without him particularly in the first half against Liverpool 

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Southgate made his mark by using young and up and coming players , if he's lost that ability then he will fail.

Jack will be missed but it gives an opportunity for other players to break through and for a new captain . 

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3 hours ago, Wainy316 said:

That'll probably be him out until March then.

Always happens with the little blighter. 

Champions League charge from the match he comes back though?

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2 hours ago, Ouchmefoot said:

Well, he may well miss Sunday but the international break is just what we need to nurse him back to full fitness (I hope).

I say we stitch him up and force feed him red bulls

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