Villarocker Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 I just wish Dean Smith had a shotgun 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyvilla Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Jack will be made for life financially , but football wise it could end up being a bad move for him. Should he have another episode of his shin injury at Man city it won't be like it is here and back in the team straight away. He will have to get past Kdb , sterling and the like of foden to even get back off the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderPower_14 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 21 minutes ago, QldVilla said: If Jack leaves and we end up playing the soulless in a cup final and he scores or assists the winning goal, how will that make people feel and will it affect how he is remembered? It's pretty important we win a trophy or two and ideally make the CL while Jack is in his prime. Either we cement his legacy if he's here, or he can suffer the regret of missing out if he's left. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aston_Villan4 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 5 minutes ago, mattyvilla said: Jack will be made for life financially , but football wise it could end up being a bad move for him. Should he have another episode of his shin injury at Man city it won't be like it is here and back in the team straight away. He will have to get past Kdb , sterling and the like of foden to even get back off the bench. He will become the Jamie Tartt of football..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyblade Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Trying to work out, if there's a release clause and we're in negotiations, what exactly are we negotiating? The structure of the payment? Typically when a release clause has been triggered, it's reported by the media as such. Notable recent examples for us are Delph and Benteke. I do remember Liverpool trying to negotiate a deal below the release clause though, could this be what it is? Is there even a release clause? For all the journalists tripping over themselves trying to cover this story, they don't have cover it in mystery and confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoVillan1983 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 1 hour ago, ben1505 said: Does Delph have a statue outside any of the clubs that he’s played for? Fib-ian Wealth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davkaus Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 15 minutes ago, mattyvilla said: Jack will be made for life financially , but football wise it could end up being a bad move for him. Should he have another episode of his shin injury at Man city it won't be like it is here and back in the team straight away. He will have to get past Kdb , sterling and the like of foden to even get back off the bench. He's already made for life financially. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 10 minutes ago, Keyblade said: Trying to work out, if there's a release clause and we're in negotiations, what exactly are we negotiating? The structure of the payment? Typically when a release clause has been triggered, it's reported by the media as such. Notable recent examples for us are Delph and Benteke. I do remember Liverpool trying to negotiate a deal below the release clause though, could this be what it is? Is there even a release clause? For all the journalists tripping over themselves trying to cover this story, they don't have cover it in mystery and confusion. If is a release clause then no negotiations, if the clause then City can trigger it(or Arsenal) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChicagoVillan1983 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 10 minutes ago, Keyblade said: Trying to work out, if there's a release clause and we're in negotiations, what exactly are we negotiating? The structure of the payment? Typically when a release clause has been triggered, it's reported by the media as such. Notable recent examples for us are Delph and Benteke. I do remember Liverpool trying to negotiate a deal below the release clause though, could this be what it is? Is there even a release clause? For all the journalists tripping over themselves trying to cover this story, they don't have cover it in mystery and confusion. 100 million cash now is very different to 20 for five years. I suspect even if it does exist and is 100, city are trying to stretch it out as far as possible. Villa don't want to sell, and so insist "100 now or **** off" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderPower_14 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 IF a release cause is met there must be something in it about the terms of payment. I assume it'd be all in one hit given the nature of such a clause. Otherwise a club could "meet" the release clause and tell you they're paying £10p/w for 10,000,000 weeks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 £100m is a bit of a piss take really. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben1505 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 1 hour ago, AvfcRigo82 said: £100m is a bit of a piss take really. Too much or too little? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan501 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 This guy showing you the way Jack, no matter how hard they try city fans will not worship you like us Villa fans to them you are just another player to us you are Mr Aston Villa. UTV 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KangarooVillan Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 I can’t help but wonder how much the World Cup might play a role here. Like it or not if he plays in a CL final next year instead of Stirling or Foden he surely has to start for the WC. Or at least gives him a better opportunity. To me, that has has a bigger draw than just playing CL. Most people can’t remember the squad players who won a CL 20 years ago unless it was your team. If he does go, this fu***** stinks at every level. There’s the fact that he’s been here since he was 5 and his whole family support Villa. There’s the fact that his grandfather played for Villa. There’s the fact that that’s been overridden by the promise of additional riches and success. There’s the fact this shows no one can resist the lure of the elite teams, no matter what. There’s the fact he would be going to a team who breached FFP and threatened to make a Super League and they still go unpunished and can poach the best players. There’s the fact that this is all funded by an oppressive monarchy far away who doesn’t really give a sh** about football. And there’s the example that this sets for all of our young players in the academy if they do indeed become stars in their own right. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 1 hour ago, AvfcRigo82 said: £100m is a bit of a piss take really. New UK record by £11m Would I think become only the 9th £100m+ transfer of all time It is crazy money, I'd like more... Get it up to £120m and you're in 3rd highest transfer every territory which to be fair is insane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catanzaro Posted July 31, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted July 31, 2021 I’m not sure if this has already been mentioned, but Mirror reporting that we’re offering him £200k a week to stay.. Actually they’re reporting that The Star are reporting the £200k offer.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 6 minutes ago, catanzaro said: I’m not sure if this has already been mentioned, but Mirror reporting that we’re offering him £200k a week to stay.. Actually they’re reporting that The Star are reporting the £200k offer.. 200k figure bandied about for days long before either of those reported and total guesswork anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liono Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 bye Jack - thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheAuthority Posted July 31, 2021 VT Supporter Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2021 (edited) November 11th 1874. Aston Villa had been around 121 years before Jack Grealish was born. I remember when Kevan started this thread and how @sir_gary_cahill raved about him I remember his home debut in 2014. Getting kicked around by Steve Bruce's Hull KRFC. That was 140 years after AVFC was founded. I remember him being recognized by Tim Sherwood as an amazing talent and he played Liverpool off the park in the FA Cup Semi Final I remember Remi Garde benching him because Jack didn't understand how privileged he was and acted like a prize plum I remember the scary freak injury on his kidney that kept him out for part of Steve Bruce's 1st full season I remember the unpunished stomp by Ryan Fredericks that helped keep us down but in the end saved us I remember how rejuvenated he was by Dean Smith joining Villa as Head Coach I remember the volley against Derby when he returned after injury as Captain I remember the 10 game winning streak I remember him running to his disabled sister at the end of the play off final victory I remember the weird Covid Season and his goal against West Ham in that equally weird green shirt that kept us up I remember how we were flying before he was injured in 20-21, thrashing the Champions and beating many of the "Top 6" I remember wishing so much for the England manager to play him more during the Euro 2020 tournament If Jack does leave, sadly, he will be remembered less than Andy Townsend. A captain who actually lifted a trophy for Aston Villa. He will be remembered in the same way as a Fabian Delph, or James Milner. Gareth Barry gave us 10 years and even Dwight Yorke won actual trophies with us. Jack has arguably achieved less than that. Jack becomes one notch above Christian Benteke. Have we actually seen more magic at VP than Paul Merson? Has JG done that? It will be such a shame as so many of us who have followed his career really believed that perhaps there was still a glimmer of something good left in football. If he does leave, it's just another sad reflection of how money, capitalism, and ultimately power, has poisoned everything that we once held pure in our communities - not just football. Good luck to him and his family. Sport is one of the few ways a working class lad can ascend to the elite financially. It's so sad that it the rise always seems to sully everything that could make the story truly romantic. Edited July 31, 2021 by TheAuthority 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DakotaVilla Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 13 hours ago, Olof82Mellberg4 said: What's your point? He's still blatantly leaving The point is that if there is no release clause and/or active public demand by Jack then it’s the owners decision to sell not Jack’s decision to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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