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How certain are you that Global Warming is man-made?  

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  1. 1. How certain are you that Global Warming is man-made?

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    • Likely
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    • Not Likely
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    • No way
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2 minutes ago, mjmooney said:

That Attenborough programme on BBC last night was depressing and terrifying in equal measures. We're **** ed. 

Our demise is inevitable. Just like every civilisation who chose hubris over harmony.

For people outside the UK the whole episode can be seen here,

 

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COPENHAGEN, Denmark (AP) — An enormous chunk of Greenland’s ice cap has broken off in the far northeastern Arctic, a development that scientists say is evidence of rapid climate change. The glacier section that broke off is 110 square kilometers (42.3 square miles). It came off of the fjord called Nioghalvfjerdsfjorden, which is roughly 80 kilometers (50 miles) long and 20 kilometers (12 miles) wide, the National Geological Survey of Denmark and Greenland said Monday.

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In August, a study showed that Greenland lost a record amount of ice during an extra-warm 2019, with the melt massive enough to cover California in more than 1.25 meters (4 feet) of water.

https://www.mail.com/int/scitech/news/10174388-dismay-huge-chunk-greenlands-ice-cap-breaks.html#.1258-stage-hero1-1

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34 minutes ago, Brumerican said:

Currently  there  are  5 NAMED storms in the Atlantic . It hasn't happened for 50 years apparently.

Probably started by those Antifa terrorists.

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Just now, chrisp65 said:

Trump has already said 3 fake and the other 2 are due to poor wave management in Democratic held latitudes.

Possibly 7 now ...

Still none called Daniels yet sadly.

 

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For the first time since records began, the main nursery of Arctic sea ice in Siberia has yet to start freezing in late October.

The delayed annual freeze in the Laptev Sea has been caused by freakishly protracted warmth in northern Russia and the intrusion of Atlantic waters, say climate scientists who warn of possible knock-on effects across the polar region.

Ocean temperatures in the area recently climbed to more than 5C above average, following a record breaking heatwave and the unusually early decline of last winter’s sea ice.

The trapped heat takes a long time to dissipate into the atmosphere, even at this time of the year when the sun creeps above the horizon for little more than an hour or two each day.

Graphs of sea-ice extent in the Laptev Sea, which usually show a healthy seasonal pulse, appear to have flat-lined. As a result, there is a record amount of open sea in the Arctic.

“The lack of freeze-up so far this fall is unprecedented in the Siberian Arctic region,” said Zachary Labe, a postdoctoral researcher at Colorado State University. He says this is in line with the expected impact of human-driven climate change.

 

Grauniad

Yeah - Let's keep those burny power stations.

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We really are just pinning all of our hopes on some unforeseen technological solution aren't we?

If global catastrophe causing hundreds of millions of people being displaced and/or killed doesn't happen in my lifetime, I'll be amazed

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46 minutes ago, villakram said:

Naughty behavior from I presume Netflix and not Attenborough, looks bad either way. Short vid, with interesting information if a somewhat strong closing.

 

That is a load of YouTube conspiracy garbage. The woman is suggesting the documentary was implying Walrus were committing suicide over climate change. The reality is their habitats have shrunk to the point where they are more likely to be in contact with Polar Bears on land instead of being safe on floating chunks of sea ice like they used to. No one was hiding Polar Bears from shots, the point is the Walrus shouldn't even been there. Conservationists are now trying to tempt bears away from the Walrus groups to give them a chance at survival.  

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Every autumn for about the last decade, the residents of Enurmino—a tiny, Russian village located along the Chukchi Sea—have witnessed a strange sight. Tens of thousands of Pacific walruses have exited the chilly ocean waters and assembled en masse along the shoreline.

This phenomenon, known as a “haulout,” occurs when large hordes of mostly females and calves pull themselves onto the beach to rest. The walruses climb on to shore because of declining sea ice cover.

“Typically, walruses spend most of their time at sea hauled out on ice floes as they forage for food on the ocean floor” explains WWF’s Nikhil Advani, “but as sea ice declines, they’re increasingly hauling out on land instead.”

Pacific walrus numbers reached record-low numbers in the early 1960s, but rebounded by the 1980s following significant conservation efforts. Unfortunately, the Pacific walrus population is once again in decline—with just 129,000 animals left.

https://www.worldwildlife.org/stories/climate-change-puts-the-pacific-walrus-population-on-thin-ice

 

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5 minutes ago, LondonLax said:

That is a load of YouTube conspiracy garbage. The woman is suggesting the documentary was implying Walrus were committing suicide over climate change. The reality is their habitats have shrunk to the point where they are more likely to be in contact with Polar Bears on land instead of being safe on floating chunks of sea ice like they used to. No one was hiding Polar Bears from shots, the point is the Walrus shouldn't even been there. Conservationists are now trying to tempt bears away from the Walrus groups to give them a chance at survival.  

https://www.worldwildlife.org/stories/climate-change-puts-the-pacific-walrus-population-on-thin-ice

 

Another counter argument from last year when this all kicked off the first time  https://www.lse.ac.uk/granthaminstitute/news/climate-change-deniers-haul-out-a-daft-conspiracy-theory-about-attenboroughs-new-programme/

By the way, anybody want to take a guess at what London street beginning with the letter T the Global Warming Policy Foundation are based at?

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8 minutes ago, andym said:

 

Another counter argument from last year when this all kicked off the first time  https://www.lse.ac.uk/granthaminstitute/news/climate-change-deniers-haul-out-a-daft-conspiracy-theory-about-attenboroughs-new-programme/

By the way, anybody want to take a guess at what London street beginning with the letter T the Global Warming Policy Foundation are based at?

I see, they are a based in the offices of the Institute of Mining. It all makes sense. 

The most frustrating thing is the legion of seals in the comments section below the video all barking some variation of "I knew that Attenborough was a wrong'un!" without bothering to do any research into what they are watching.  

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2 hours ago, LondonLax said:

I see, they are a based in the offices of the Institute of Mining. It all makes sense. 

The most frustrating thing is the legion of seals in the comments section below the video all barking some variation of "I knew that Attenborough was a wrong'un!" without bothering to do any research into what they are watching.  

There's a ton of rightwing thinktanks all located at the same address, 55 Tufton Street: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/55_Tufton_Street

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3 hours ago, LondonLax said:

That is a load of YouTube conspiracy garbage. The woman is suggesting the documentary was implying Walrus were committing suicide over climate change. The reality is their habitats have shrunk to the point where they are more likely to be in contact with Polar Bears on land instead of being safe on floating chunks of sea ice like they used to. No one was hiding Polar Bears from shots, the point is the Walrus shouldn't even been there. Conservationists are now trying to tempt bears away from the Walrus groups to give them a chance at survival.  

https://www.worldwildlife.org/stories/climate-change-puts-the-pacific-walrus-population-on-thin-ice

 

Somewhat, but even a broke clock... That is their strategy: find a small matter where you have made an error (a genuine mistake, of omission or an outright lie) and then they hammer that and use it to invalidate the rest of the message by association. It is possible to see this and be aware of it.

In this case the Walrus' have been doing that since the 70s at least, and hence the comment is applicable to the specific narrative presented in the netflix doc. It is really interesting the way the BBC series the following year didn't do that with the same footage and Attenborough was there too. Hence, my suspicion that this was an editorial/narrative discussion made on this side of the water, likely people caught up in the ongoing culture war. 

This caught my attention as polar bears are something of a bete noire for the GW folks as there were measured declines in the polar bear population (due to low sea ice ==> GW), hence demonstrating GW is real and in recent years they have seen the population numbers to rebound, which means GW is not real... sigh.

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