wazzap24 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 (edited) 13 hours ago, Chindie said: HBO are making a Watchmen series. Hmm. Dunno what to make of that. HBO, good. Watchmen, good. But... The movie for it's faults is a good adaptation (it's nearly a panel for panel a copy for most of the run time), the story doesn't need revisiting really. And Damon Lindelof is involved. Ugh. Hmm. You can't make a show on the original alone. It would be what, 4 episodes tops? you couldn't realistically stretch anymore out of it? Its going to be interesting to see what it's going to be based on. Will they use the 'Before Watchmen' prequel material? I enjoyed those runs, despite the criticism they recieved from a lot of people. They didn't stack up to the original, but nothing does TBF. I'd like to see a limited run of say 3 seasons max, using some of the storylines from the prequels and ending with a new take on the original novel. Edited June 21, 2017 by wazzap24 Words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzap24 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 13 hours ago, PieFacE said: Lindelof is ace. Leftovers is some of the best television I've ever seen. He's a mixed bag. He was a big part of Lost which was generally ace, until the end. I agree The Leftovers is brilliant. But, Cowboys and Aliens and Prometheus were not very good. At all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 So have bene watching three shows finished wentworth season 5, wow what a fantastic ending to this series. one of the best serial prison dramas i have seen better call saul i think episode 10 is finale was abit meh. good in parts slow in others now i have started prison break at last, season one episode 3... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted June 22, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted June 22, 2017 9 hours ago, wazzap24 said: You can't make a show on the original alone. It would be what, 4 episodes tops? you couldn't realistically stretch anymore out of it? Its going to be interesting to see what it's going to be based on. Will they use the 'Before Watchmen' prequel material? I enjoyed those runs, despite the criticism they recieved from a lot of people. They didn't stack up to the original, but nothing does TBF. I'd like to see a limited run of say 3 seasons max, using some of the storylines from the prequels and ending with a new take on the original novel. You could spin out the original to a series. You'd just extrapolate everything. The origins of the Minute Men, the collapse of the Minute Men, the origin of Dr Manhattan, the Vietnam thing, the 'ban on capes'... That would all be an episode each at least. You'd have what... 5 episodes before the actual plot of Watchmen begins? You could get away with never touching the Before Watchmen stuff. Which would generally be a good thing. You maybe could nick a few bits to fill out the background of some characters, but I'd leave a formal adaptation of those well alone. Most of them are truly awful. But I just don't know why you'd bother. The movie has problems but it's a damn near copy of the comic, with a couple of notable adjustments to fix problems people might have with the plot. I don't see what you gain from adapting it again. And I love the comic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Better Call Saul Finale... Spoiler Aww poor Chuck ....Fired twice in one episode. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Designer1 Posted June 22, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted June 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, Brumerican said: Better Call Saul Finale... Hide contents Aww poor Chuck ....Fired twice in one episode. Great last episode. Fantastic series. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Designer1 said: Great last episode. Fantastic series. Even just the little things like the accent of the older brother in the tent at the start . I thought it was Michael McKean. Edited June 22, 2017 by Brumerican 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Brumerican said: Better Call Saul Finale... Hide contents Aww poor Chuck ....Fired twice in one episode. Haha good one Spoiler Bet he gets saved. I hope not he has run his course i feel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCDAN Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 52 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Haha good one Reveal hidden contents Bet he gets saved. I hope not he has run his course i feel. Spoiler Starting to get the feeling we are looking at a 5 season run, the same as breaking bad. There is so much more mileage in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCDAN Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 2 hours ago, Brumerican said: Better Call Saul Finale... Reveal hidden contents Aww poor Chuck ....Fired twice in one episode. Spoiler The swing of hating him, then feeling sorry for him, then hating him again was excellent. Fantastic actor. I'm thinking they let him die with Jimmy trying in vain to save him but failing, possibly that's the starting point for becoming Saul, maybe the only thing holding him back was his respect for his brother. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrenm Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 3 hours ago, Brumerican said: Better Call Saul Finale... Reveal hidden contents Aww poor Chuck ....Fired twice in one episode. Why did I press Reveal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieFacE Posted June 22, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted June 22, 2017 On BCS... Spoiler Can't see Chuck getting out of that. I don't think he even wants to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 28 minutes ago, PieFacE said: On BCS... Hide contents Can't see Chuck getting out of that. I don't think he even wants to. Spoiler Yeah most definitely he was trying for a while to kick it over. But why not overdose, setting yourself on fire is a pretty brutal way to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzap24 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 8 hours ago, Chindie said: You could spin out the original to a series. You'd just extrapolate everything. The origins of the Minute Men, the collapse of the Minute Men, the origin of Dr Manhattan, the Vietnam thing, the 'ban on capes'... That would all be an episode each at least. You'd have what... 5 episodes before the actual plot of Watchmen begins? You could get away with never touching the Before Watchmen stuff. Which would generally be a good thing. You maybe could nick a few bits to fill out the background of some characters, but I'd leave a formal adaptation of those well alone. Most of them are truly awful. But I just don't know why you'd bother. The movie has problems but it's a damn near copy of the comic, with a couple of notable adjustments to fix problems people might have with the plot. I don't see what you gain from adapting it again. And I love the comic. Fair points there (although I don't agree that the prequels were awful ) it's a lot of padding though, in the hands of a man with a questionable track record. I agree, I wouldn't have bothered personally, but in the right hands, there is nothing stopping it being good. There are a few key variables, the big one being how many seasons they see it running for. If we are talking a stand alone, one off, 8 episode run - they could do what you describe. If they want it to run for 3/4/5 seasons, they need some damn good writers and some damn good stories! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingram85 Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 So I've finally joined the modern world and signed up to Netflix. Spent the last few days watching Daredevil and it's absolutely superb so far. I liked that it was a slow burn instead of chucking everything in all at once. Some great character development too with everyone getting decent time and being fleshed out well. Just finished Season 1 and got season 2 downloaded for my night shifts the next few nights. Took me ages to realise that Matt is Tristan from Stardust. Anyway, yeah, its bloody great. Private Pile is truly a great Villain, very menacing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFCDAN Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Started Rick and Morty last night, 2 episodes in and it's bloody great so far. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 2 hours ago, Ingram85 said: So I've finally joined the modern world and signed up to Netflix. Spent the last few days watching Daredevil and it's absolutely superb so far. I liked that it was a slow burn instead of chucking everything in all at once. Some great character development too with everyone getting decent time and being fleshed out well. Just finished Season 1 and got season 2 downloaded for my night shifts the next few nights. Took me ages to realise that Matt is Tristan from Stardust. Anyway, yeah, its bloody great. Private Pile is truly a great Villain, very menacing. Wait until season 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted June 22, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted June 22, 2017 Season 2 isn't as good. Still good, but isn't quite as brilliant as the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 10 hours ago, Chindie said: Season 2 isn't as good. Still good, but isn't quite as brilliant as the first. I thought other way round personally, although the villain in one is better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted June 23, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted June 23, 2017 29 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: I thought other way round personally, although the villain in one is better It's a messier season IMO. It's got great moments, really great moments, and obviously adds in a good character played extremely well, but it has worse lulls and the plot is too bitty and divided. And it adds a character I can't stand played by the wrong actor. I still really enjoyed it, I've always loved Daredevil as a character and the second series builds on him and the dichotomy with being Matt Murdock too, but... That first series is so singularly good. And being an origin for Fisk really works exceptionally well. I've a feeling Daredevil will be the best part of the Defenders, even from the little snippets we've had so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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