Chindie Posted July 26, 2010 VT Supporter Share Posted July 26, 2010 I'd say that one thing O'Neill almost undoubtedly is is ambitious, myself. according to what? buying Heskey in Jan 09 when we needed a top striker to aid our CL challenge? buying nobody last Jan? Please enlighten me Ambition is tempered by the realities of the situation you find yourself in. This Jan for example, it's pretty obvious we'd not got the funds for players one way or another. You may have noticed that's hungover to now. I think O'Neill has the ambition to do things and succeed. He may go about doing so in his own way, but if he wasn't ambitious I don't think he'd be in the current job. It's just something you can tell about the man, and sometimes what he says. It's clear now that his foremost thoughts are of realities, but I daresay he's still has thoughts of achieving a lot. He just, currently, can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir_gary_cahill Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 I'd say that one thing O'Neill almost undoubtedly is is ambitious, myself. according to what? buying Heskey in Jan 09 when we needed a top striker to aid our CL challenge? buying nobody last Jan? Please enlighten me Ambition is tempered by the realities of the situation you find yourself in. This Jan for example, it's pretty obvious we'd not got the funds for players one way or another. You may have noticed that's hungover to now. I think O'Neill has the ambition to do things and succeed. He may go about doing so in his own way, but if he wasn't ambitious I don't think he'd be in the current job. It's just something you can tell about the man, and sometimes what he says. It's clear now that his foremost thoughts are of realities, but I daresay he's still has thoughts of achieving a lot. He just, currently, can't. You agree that we have no money? I have been saying this for some time but other people seem to think we have a bottomless pit, therefore we should be looking to do the Milner deal quickly in order to generate funds as well as selling off other fringe players. He doesn't act like he has ambition with his speed in the transfer market and ability to get things done and prepare for the new season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry'sboots Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 MON must be smiling all over his face now seeing all of these managers like Redknob with the problem of cutting their squad to 25 players. No such problem for our MON, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante_Lockhart Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 I'd say that one thing O'Neill almost undoubtedly is is ambitious, myself. according to what? buying Heskey in Jan 09 when we needed a top striker to aid our CL challenge? buying nobody last Jan? Please enlighten me Ambition is tempered by the realities of the situation you find yourself in. This Jan for example, it's pretty obvious we'd not got the funds for players one way or another. You may have noticed that's hungover to now. I think O'Neill has the ambition to do things and succeed. He may go about doing so in his own way, but if he wasn't ambitious I don't think he'd be in the current job. It's just something you can tell about the man, and sometimes what he says. It's clear now that his foremost thoughts are of realities, but I daresay he's still has thoughts of achieving a lot. He just, currently, can't. You agree that we have no money? I have been saying this for some time but other people seem to think we have a bottomless pit, therefore we should be looking to do the Milner deal quickly in order to generate funds as well as selling off other fringe players. He doesn't act like he has ambition with his speed in the transfer market and ability to get things done and prepare for the new season. So to you, ambition is dependant on how quickly you resolve issues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 I'd say that one thing O'Neill almost undoubtedly is is ambitious, myself. agreed on that Chinders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 I'd say that one thing O'Neill almost undoubtedly is is ambitious, myself. according to what? buying Heskey in Jan 09 when we needed a top striker to aid our CL challenge? buying nobody last Jan? Please enlighten me Ambition is tempered by the realities of the situation you find yourself in. This Jan for example, it's pretty obvious we'd not got the funds for players one way or another. You may have noticed that's hungover to now. I think O'Neill has the ambition to do things and succeed. He may go about doing so in his own way, but if he wasn't ambitious I don't think he'd be in the current job. It's just something you can tell about the man, and sometimes what he says. It's clear now that his foremost thoughts are of realities, but I daresay he's still has thoughts of achieving a lot. He just, currently, can't. You agree that we have no money? I have been saying this for some time but other people seem to think we have a bottomless pit, therefore we should be looking to do the Milner deal quickly in order to generate funds as well as selling off other fringe players. He doesn't act like he has ambition with his speed in the transfer market and ability to get things done and prepare for the new season. So to you, ambition is dependant on how quickly you resolve issues? yep, that seems to be his quite strange standpoint. He seems to think that selling Milly quickly (and therefore for probably less money) is more ambitious than playing hardbal and either keeping him, or getting the maximum we can for him. I find that a strange definition of ambition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxa Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 Do you feel that the players at Villa feels the clubs strong ambition? Selling Barry and soon Milner? I like what Redknapp said on TV the other day..."Last season was tremendous for us...and now we need to push on from that to establish ourselves in top four." He has eyes on three signings he would like to add to current squad. THIS IS what MON should´ve done when we got ourselves to the Europa League first season. Spend money on players that would make the difference and would push us up... He spent on players to keep us at a "standstill"...and this is what he will do again selling Milner. We will see a safe signing from MON to make up for the loss of Milner but NOTHING that will bring us any closer to the top..and NOT a player that would create a huge buzz at the place. 100 different shades of grey... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 A friend of mine who knows a physio at villa - reckons we are prepared to pay £16m for Carlton Cole ????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villan-scott Posted July 27, 2010 VT Supporter Share Posted July 27, 2010 ITK!! We all love ITK, but not when it states we are willing to smash our transfer record on Carlton 'Carthorse' Cole, he's come on a lot since his loan days with us, but not 16m pounds worth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 this has to be the most frustrating summer in history. almost august and not one signing, or close to signing any. gets worse by the year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaN.I Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 But if we do see a signing.... yes thats an if, we wont see the best of them til next season because they wont have had a full preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabbygabbygabbygabbygabby Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 But if we do see a signing.... yes thats an if, we wont see the best of them til next season because they wont have had a full preseason. Dunne, Warnock and Collins didn't seem to mind. They will of had a preseason at whichever club they come from so that is not an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bomvilla7 Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 MON must be smiling all over his face now seeing all of these managers like Redknob with the problem of cutting their squad to 25 players. No such problem for our MON, eh? the only thing im really smiling about this transfer window and its not even a positive thing.... anything to brighten up our transfer window plz Paintball any1?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 But if we do see a signing.... yes thats an if, we wont see the best of them til next season because they wont have had a full preseason. Dunne, Warnock and Collins didn't seem to mind. They will of had a preseason at whichever club they come from so that is not an issue. I don't buy into this pre season malarkey its not like they are not training with their respective clubs. i remeber everyone saying Salifou would come good after a full pre season..I'm still waiting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabbygabbygabbygabbygabby Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 But if we do see a signing.... yes thats an if, we wont see the best of them til next season because they wont have had a full preseason. Dunne, Warnock and Collins didn't seem to mind. They will of had a preseason at whichever club they come from so that is not an issue. I don't buy into this pre season malarkey its not like they are not training with their respective clubs. i remeber everyone saying Salifou would come good after a full pre season..I'm still waiting! I am willing to give Downing more of a chance because he missed it all with injury but once you are sharp it doesn't matter which club you do it with. And every club will have their players in great shape for the start of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazrim Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 If you dont think having a full pre season makes a significant difference you know absolutely **** all about anything. Why would they even bother having them otherwise? It does make a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxa Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 ..and it does make a difference knowing your teammates before opening day of the Premier League. I am really annoyed by MON´s reluctance to be active on the transfer market. He is skilled manager but many other top managers could have done what he has done to be fair...and be much more exciting with signing players. Dunne, Warnock and Collins? Yes they were brilliant to step into the team as quick as they did but what kind of players are they? Defenders...with limited skills on the ball and with a load of experience of british football. Safe safe safe...dont get me wrong..I am happy to have them at Villa...but they arent any superstar quality. There were NO push for Europe with these players signed...it was necessary signings and it were safe signings to at least upheld our status as a top 6 team. If we even consider buying Carlton Cole for £16m I will end up in psychiatric care... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted July 27, 2010 VT Supporter Share Posted July 27, 2010 A friend of mine who knows a physio at villa - reckons we are prepared to pay £16m for Carlton Cole ????? I miss the ITK thread :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NowDoINotLikeThat Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 A friend of mine who knows a physio at villa - reckons we are prepared to pay £16m for Carlton Cole ????? :shock: Don't joke about things like that please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 16M for Carlton Cole ??? That would make me reassess my viewpoint to the extent where both MON and Randy need psychiatric help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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