villa4europe Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Sat at the girlfriends parents, the reaction to it is crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornso Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Ended 3-3. Still points dropped for BVB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaChris Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Paderborn's ball retention in that last 10 minutes was even worse than ours v Arsenal if that is possible, were constantly just passing back to Dortmund all the time so inevitable a couple of crosses would hit their target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Dortmund are crap at the back, Favre will be sacked in the coming weeks Hummels was a dreadful signing and Burki is among the worst keepers about. Never seen a keeper beaten at the near post so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornso Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Hertha having a horror season, can see them falling through the trapdoor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 5 hours ago, Hornso said: Hertha having a horror season, can see them falling through the trapdoor 2nd best team in the city now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 On 25/11/2019 at 01:15, Hornso said: Hertha having a horror season, can see them falling through the trapdoor Just hired Klinsmann, nailed on relegation now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Frankfurt got over £130 million for Haller, Jovic and Rebic and none have done a thing at the new clubs. last 2 can barely get a start and Rebic is at Milan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornso Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 4 hours ago, Zatman said: Frankfurt got over £130 million for Haller, Jovic and Rebic and none have done a thing at the new clubs. last 2 can barely get a start and Rebic is at Milan Jovic needs to get out of Madrid. Think he'll become a star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Guessing @GarethRDR is already familiar with this story but I thought this was an absolutely fascinating article about Rene Maric and Marco Rose. It's Google translated and might end up behind a paywall before long but well worth the read. Top stuff by Erik Niva Quote Got top job after boy room obsession Niva tells the story of Rene Marić Did you pull your knee as a 17-year-old? Was that wrong with that coach? Or were you honestly never even very good at playing football? The dream doesn't have to be dead for it. Today's football needs many different kinds of talent - and there is living evidence that it is still possible to take the step from the boys' room right into the Champions League. In a way, football's talent hunt is over now. The maps are finished, the gold rush is over. A gemstone can bypass uncut, but it never goes undetected. The global scouting network is so finicky that every top club has a track of every ball-capable ten-year-old in every viking favela. But in another way, the path from the insignificant boy or girl room right into the elite is both wider and more open than ever before. Soccer does not just consist of players. And a little daring and a little desperate, the swelling industry around the sport itself has started a new kind of pat hunting for another type of talent. There is now room for inluencers, e-athletes, platform strategists - and for that matter also for dieticians, physiologists and match analysts. Trained children A little over seven years ago, Rene Marić was an ordinary teenager with an unusually strong interest and an extraordinarily well-used home computer. He lived at home with his parents in the small Austrian community of Handenberg. His own football career was already over, but he had tried to train the children and amateur players in the village association. But above all, he watched football. And analyzed football. And wrote about football. Already as a five-year-old he had recorded all the matches in the 1998 World Cup on VHS bands, and then he had continued to watch them for several years thereafter. Over the years, fascination then turned into a type of interpretive study. Rene Marić loved studying different games and game models, and although no one in the hometown could find a detailed match analysis, it was easy to find like-minded people online. It was hung in forums, commented on blogs, discussed in chat groups. And in the spring of 2011, Rene Marić and some of his virtual friends decided to start their own site. - We were between 16 and 22 years old, and didn't think more than 15 people would read what we wrote. We could not speak the language. Some tactical concepts - such as "gene pressing" - we picked up from coaches we listened to, but otherwise we had to come up with ourselves. We developed our own language and terminology for the processes we saw on the plan. Analyzed Norwegian match Spielverlagerung was not a website for the moderately interested. It was based on extremely extensive and fairly difficult tactical analysis of matches from the margin. This was hardcore. Three of the first posts that Rene Marić himself published were about Panama-Germany in the U17 World Cup, Internacional-Figueirense in the Brazilian league and Sarpsborg-Brann in Norway. His production rate was almost unreal. For several years he averaged more than one post a day, often two or three. To those who followed him, it seemed that he saw all the matches that were played all over the world. Once he wrote an article about what he himself called "The best match of all time": Chilean Palestino against the Uruguayan Nacional in the final qualifier for Copa Libertadore's group play. He didn't get paid anything, and he had no idea that everything would lead anywhere - it was just so damn fun to stimulate debate about how Racing Santander consistently overloaded certain specific intermediate surfaces. After just over a year of minor manic deficiencies, Rene Marić received a breakthrough he neither expected nor strived for. One of all his match analyzes was based on the match between a FC Bayern coached by Pep Guardiola and a Mainz coached by Thomas Tuchel. For some reason, Tuchel stumbled across the text, and was impressed by how accurately both the strengths and weaknesses of Mainz's playing pattern were specified. Overnight, Rene Marić was given the assignment to help with the scouting of Mainz's upcoming opponent. Formally speaking, it was only a temporary part-time job - although he struggled with it for virtually all of the day's hours - but the payment was obviously subordinate. Before smashing that Mainz analysis, he was a 21-year-old with a computer. Now he was employed by a Bundesliga club, with one of Europe's most exciting coaches as clients. He had been discovered. The door had been opened. He did not need any costly three-step training or some inherited network. Thanks to the filterless reach of the internet, his talent, his footballing eyes, his enthusiasm and his hard work had been enough. Now it was all about seizing the opportunity, and Rene Marić was obviously far too ambitious to sink back down to the anonymity he had just come from. Started training Although not the assignment for Mainz became permanent, the word spread in the industry. FC Midtjylland asked for help to prepare for the Europa League meeting with Manchester United, and a Premier League club wanted to decipher the exact mechanics of Jürgen Klopp's press game. For a period of time, Rene Marić had assignments from six different continents simultaneously, working with soccer people from Saudi Arabia to the United States. At the same time, he realized the need to develop and educate himself. He did not want to reduce himself to the guy with the scout reports, but began studying psychology at the University of Salzburg. Marić supplemented her knowledge of football's tactical machinery with a deeper understanding of the people who actually practice the sport - prepared methodically and purposefully to actually make football a profession and a career. It was time now. The next step was both well thought out and well planned. As the studies brought Marić to Salzburg, he began specially studying Red Bull Salzburg's youth team. For four, five months he regularly sent targeted analyzes to U18 coach Marco Rose, and once the season had come to an end Rene Marić had made himself indispensable. In the summer of 2016 he was hired, and after less than a year Marco Rose and Rene Marić then wrote football history together. Their team went all the way and won the Uefa Youth League, the youth version of the Champions League. In the usual cases, that tournament is also dominated by the giant clubs from the big leagues, but Red Bull Salzburg came out of the tracks and swept away Manchester City, Paris Saint-Germain, Atlético Madrid and Barcelona in their sensational triumphal march to the final. Got to take over the seniors Red Bull Salzburg is a club that receives a lot of legitimate criticism for its identity and ideology, but if you look solely at their sporting approach, it is inevitably one of Europe's most groundbreaking. - My way of thinking about football was not the same as theirs, but that's also why they brought me in. They wanted to introduce and add a different perspective. The club always strives for innovation, discussion and change. The work culture, access to information and opportunities to develop are enormous there. When the a-team coach Óscar Gárcia left Austria for Ligue 1 that summer, Red Bull Salzburg's club clash did not hesitate, but they moved Rose and Marić to the seniors. And of course. They won the league twice. They beat Borussia Dortmund and Lazio and went on to the Europa League semi-finals. They recruited Erling Braut Håland and put together the young team that stormed through the Champions League this fall. But by that time, Rene Marić and Marco Rose were no longer in Austria. This is a text about opportunities rather than an article on methodology. Anyone who wants to delve into exactly how Rene Marić looks at football has more than 2000 articles to base on; everything he wrote for Spielverlagerung and the Austrian site Abseits is still open online. According to Marco Rose, Marić's unique excellence is the ability to first analyze both teams at the same time (a skill he developed during the highly productive years in front of the computer) and then boil down the most important to concise action plan for both players and head coaches (a further development he niche in connection with the psychology studies). Nothing has come without effort. As long as he looked at the chamber he did not log his work, but during the time in Red Bull Salzburg Rene Maric used to work between 70 and 100 hours a week. Then he went home, sat down at the computer and exchanged insights and experiences. Contacted from many directions Nowadays, his mandate and mission are clearly delineated, but Marić still can't quite keep himself in touch with the global Internet community he came from. It is simply too interesting, too rewarding. - I have a network of people who send me things from all over the world: research studies, video links, interesting articles on micro-blogs. People from South Africa contact me on Facebook to discuss training methodology, and I know a coach in Ethiopia who usually uses my instructions as an example for his team. It is still easy to reach Rene Marić on social media - right now he is holding a tactical questionnaire in the form of a Christmas calendar on Twitter - and if your thoughts and observations are sufficiently interesting he is now in a position to open doors in the same way as they do. once turned up for him himself. A few weeks ago, the new version of Football Manager, the classic simulator game that is obviously big in the circles around Rene Marić, was released. One of his friends from the old tactics site Spielverlagerung made the observation that almost all the co-founders are now included in the Football Manager's database; one works for Hajduk Split in Croatia, another for St. Gallen in Switzerland and a third have just moved from Hamburger SV to Holstein Kiel. - We started from the bottom. Now we are here. Here is where we are, and Rene Marić remains in the same position he has had most all fall. He tops the table, as assistant coach for Borussia Mönchengladbach he leads the Bundesliga. - It still feels unrealistic for it to be this way. Since joining Marco Rose to Germany this summer, the two have transformed Borussia Mönchengladbach with an extremely fast and vertical attack game. Releases young Rene Marić is still only 27 years old, but eight years have passed since he wrote his first Internet analysis of a Bundesliga meeting between Bayern Munich and Borussia Mönchengladbach. Then Borussia Mönchengladbach won by 1-0, and Rene Marić was particularly impressed by how then-coach Lucien Favre got his team to hold together collectively in their defensive transfers. Now it is up to him to repeat the trick, and then let a new generation of hungry, innovative teenagers explain to the world how things really went. We don't know who they are yet - but we can be sure they are out there. https://www.aftonbladet.se/sportbladet/a/Vbr753/fick-toppjobb-efter-pojkrummets-besatthet 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 Gladbach beat Bayern..... Very interesting season now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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VillaJ100 Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Bloody hell Bayern have collapsed. Will probably still win the league tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornso Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 On 25/11/2019 at 11:15, Hornso said: Hertha having a horror season, can see them falling through the trapdoor Speaking of falling through the trapdoor. Werder Bremen 0-5 Mainz. Robin Quaison hat trick. Werder sitting 2 points above the relegation zone, conceding 2.5 goals per game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A'Villan Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 @sne Thanks for posting that article. I love that it shows the human element behind his success, most predominantly his passion, as well as an obsessive technical and tactical aptitude for the game. Reminds me of Phil Jackson, the unlikeliest of leaders and game changers, turned basketball guru, icon and all-time coaching great. Went from back-room staff to hero. It's amazing what you can achieve when you understand the humanness behind a craft or undertaking, for this Maric guy he studied psychology to aid his understanding. Phil Jackson pioneered the coaching methodology of being philosophical and community based with his approach to the game, with a locker room full of ego to manage. Like Jackson turned the culture from one of hostility and ego-centered competitiveness where conflict of interest was rife, to a team-oriented, altruistic and cohesive approach. Maric has pioneered and been a maverick in changing a culture whereby your credentials are potentially recognised and employable before formal and traditional qualification is held. Kudos to him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornso Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 On 28/11/2019 at 16:46, Zatman said: Just hired Klinsmann, nailed on relegation now Hasn't been pretty but he's steadied the ship for now with 7 points from their last 3 games including wins against Freiburg & Leverkusen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 23 minutes ago, Hornso said: Hasn't been pretty but he's steadied the ship for now with 7 points from their last 3 games including wins against Freiburg & Leverkusen. Didn't expect that at all if honest, bit of a Sherwood type from other jobs but fair play to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornso Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Zatman said: Didn't expect that at all if honest, bit of a Sherwood type from other jobs but fair play to them From what I've heard, one of his assistants I is the "brains" behind the operation and he's more the motivator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 4 minutes ago, Hornso said: From what I've heard, one of his assistants I is the "brains" behind the operation and he's more the motivator. I think that was same with Germany 2006, Low was the brains but Klinsmann the motivator Fair play he knows his limits and not afraid to ask others 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornso Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Another team I have a soft spot for and has moved out of the relegation zone with a win today is Koln. Hope the Billy Goats manage to stay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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