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10 minutes ago, veloman said:

Anyone know what is wrong with Jimmy Anderson; he looked quite poorly I thought 

Possible side strain unfortunately.  Shouldn't have bowled in that afternoon spell as didn't look fit.

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Even if it's just a niggle, it's going to add to concern over his viability to last test series in the future with his age. Whilst he's performing when fit, that's not a problem for a 4/5 match series if you can think he'll definitely be fit for at least 2 of the tests he'll get picked. 

In Sri Lanka I suspect there's no point picking him either. 

 

Great win for England though, I'd back us to go on and win this series 3-1 barring weather or very placid pitches. 

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It's such a shame about Jimmy.  His bowling is as good as it's ever been, but his body is letting him down now.  :( 

I went to the opening Ashes test when he bowled about 4 overs before going off and every ball was an absolute belter.  

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I can remember him when he first started his international career, quick, raw and exciting. He has lasted forever it seems. Don’t think he reached the heights of Dale Steyn st his best but he has lasted longer and taken more wickets. 

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11 hours ago, PaulC said:

I can remember him when he first started his international career, quick, raw and exciting. He has lasted forever it seems. Don’t think he reached the heights of Dale Steyn st his best but he has lasted longer and taken more wickets. 

The stat about half the rest of the team being about 5 to 7 years old, when he made his debut made me smile. 

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I always consider Jacques Kallis the best all rounder of my time watching cricket (I'm not old enough to have seen Sobers), but I think Ben Stokes and surpassed him now. Amazing performance again yesterday. 

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2 hours ago, dAVe80 said:

I always consider Jacques Kallis the best all rounder of my time watching cricket (I'm not old enough to have seen Sobers), but I think Ben Stokes and surpassed him now. Amazing performance again yesterday. 

Can't agree with that, I'm afraid.

Stokes is a fine player but Kallis was a much better batsman. Plenty of others above Stokes, in my view, but it's always difficult to measure all-rounders against each other.

Put him up against Botham, for example, and he's a better batsman but not in the same league as a bowler.

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3 hours ago, snowychap said:

Can't agree with that, I'm afraid.

Stokes is a fine player but Kallis was a much better batsman. Plenty of others above Stokes, in my view, but it's always difficult to measure all-rounders against each other.

Put him up against Botham, for example, and he's a better batsman but not in the same league as a bowler.

Kallis for me is the most underrated player of my cricketing time (started watching mid 80's), because he wasn't flashy, or covered in ink, or controversial I think his impact on cricket is a bit lost. He spent the majority of his career batting at no. 3, he quite often was first change bowler and he fielded in the slips/gully areas. The guy was mentally tougher than anyone ever in any sport that I have seen.

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13 hours ago, Villan_of_oz said:

Kallis for me is the most underrated player of my cricketing time (started watching mid 80's), because he wasn't flashy, or covered in ink, or controversial I think his impact on cricket is a bit lost. He spent the majority of his career batting at no. 3, he quite often was first change bowler and he fielded in the slips/gully areas. The guy was mentally tougher than anyone ever in any sport that I have seen.

Really?  I thought he was the most boring cricketer of his generation.  Great numbers but I genuinely can't remember a single innings of his.

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Wood in for Anderson, Archer still injured. 

England have thankfully won the toss and batting, as the pitch looks so very slow. Would have been a horror day to bowl on, so hopefully our green openers can cash in. 43/0 off 18 so far. Grind mode on. 

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Stokes with another 100. He's quite good!

Ollie Pope doing a bloody good job too, bedding in for the long haul. With Sibley, him, and Curran, the new youngsters are promisingly bullying their way into this England side.

How long until Bairstow "independently" decides he's going to be focusing on white ball cricket :detect:

 

 

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Curran played the innings England and Pope needed. Kept the run rate going, taking the pressure off, like Stokes with Sibley in the previous test. Pope could take his time without feeling that he was slowing down the team. An excellent role from Curran and helped Ollie get his 100. Ideally he'd have ensured he stuck around until Pope got over the line at least, but a pacy 40 stopped us possibly getting bogged down and losing momentum

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8 hours ago, Rodders said:

How long until Bairstow "independently" decides he's going to be focusing on white ball cricket :detect:

 

 

Unless he can reinvent himself as a specialist number 3 batsman, he's finished in tests. 

England look like they're finally putting together a decent team. Amazing what can happen when you actually play red ball players in test cricket and don't try and shoehorn white ball players like Hales and Roy in. Burns and Sibley hopefully will cement the opening positions for years, Root at 4, Pope at 5, Stokes at 6 (think that switch will happen once Pope has a few more games under his belt) and Buttler at 7 while keeping wicket. Foakes to replace Buttler in due course. Just number 3 position to find. Denly doing a solid job at the minute but he's not a long term option. Maybe Crawley can play that role. 

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25 minutes ago, Xela said:

ope at 5, Stokes at 6 (think that switch will happen once Pope has a few more games under his belt)

I'm not so sure. Given Stokes's improvement and assurance as a batter, I wouldn't be impressed with him dropping down the order.

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