snowychap Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 41 minutes ago, veloman said: "Really good spinner" comment WAS mainly based on his performance in the last test - so might have been a bit of an exaggeration . He is a more than useful bat too I think. Either way, I still think it's a cock up ! Fair enough. He looks half decent but I don't think he ought to be seen as any great worry. Decent player and may go on to be really good. I agree that it doesn't look the smartest of choices to stick them in at the moment (though Williamson was intending to do the same, I believe). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 7 hours ago, veloman said: Now I realise it is somewhat churlish to keep on Root's case but .... was it really a good idea to win the toss and choose to bat last when they have a really good spinner like Mitchell Santner in their team ! Perhaps someone with greater in-depth knowledge than me can explain that. But FAR more serious is the news that Jeetan Patel is retiring next year from Warks. How the hell will they replace him - great player IMO. Can’t replace a player like Jeetan. Never thought he would be that good after his first spell with us. Surprised he has such a poor test record. Maybe lived in the shell of Vetorri a bit, Surprised England left out Leach. Got to have a balanced attack in my opinion. Root and Denly not even part-timers really. Shame Sibley failed again. Needs to be given time though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 I play cricket with fellas who bowl like that. They can be unerringly annoying to bat against Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Well done Joe Root. An excellent double hundred. Well done Ollie Pope too. Tough to get a positive result, as pitch is slow and not deteriorating, but at least it's an encouraging direction for the South Africa tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blandy Posted December 2, 2019 Moderator Share Posted December 2, 2019 18 hours ago, chrisp65 said: Literally unplayable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 That is the worst dropped catch I think I've seen in a test match. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veloman Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Bob Willis gone - only 70 - after "a short illness". A Warks legend IMO but there is a point of view that he reserved his best performances for England. I remember when he signed from Surrey; papers said there was a 'soccer style rush' to get his signature. Those were the days when Warks had some ambition (and money it appears) - certainly odds to now. RIP On a brighter note - good to see Jeetan Patel's ability recognised by England as he joins coaching staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 He looked frail during the Ashes series whenever I saw him on TV but had no idea he was ill 70's an ok knock but shame he couldn't push on and convert it into a century Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Really sad, I know he had a good innings at 70 but I actually really enjoyed watching/listening to him, yeah he was grumpy and often focused on negatives but he told it like it was and didn’t hold back. The world of cricket will be a little poorer without him. RIP 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 5 hours ago, veloman said: Bob Willis gone An interesting Obit/Career summary from Vic Marks - I think the last paragraph is great: Quote Teammates are a reliable barometer and you would be hard-pressed to find any who do not speak well of Willis, citing not only his unrelenting passion for playing for England but also a piercing, dry sense of humour. Away from the cricket he smiled quite often and was the most entertaining of companions. Perhaps more telling are reports of a dinner that Willis had with England’s pace bowlers a couple of years ago. The youngsters arrived warily since this was the man who always seemed to be slagging them off on Sky; they left enlightened and entertained after the most congenial of evenings, recognising that Bob Willis was actually one of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 5 hours ago, veloman said: Bob Willis gone - only 70 - after "a short illness". A Warks legend IMO but there is a point of view that he reserved his best performances for England. I remember when he signed from Surrey; papers said there was a 'soccer style rush' to get his signature. Those were the days when Warks had some ambition (and money it appears) - certainly odds to now. RIP On a brighter note - good to see Jeetan Patel's ability recognised by England as he joins coaching staff. Just saw the news very sad. Great servant for Warwickshire and England. Up there with the best fast bowlers England have had. There is a point of view he reserved his best performances for England. But this was a time when you had to honour your county as well as your country, so no breaks from county cricket just to play test cricket. He bowled some great spells for Warwickshire too, they were a bit more isolated. But he captained us to the win the sunday league which was the first competition I saw us win. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 17 hours ago, bannedfromHandV said: Really sad, I know he had a good innings at 70 but I actually really enjoyed watching/listening to him, yeah he was grumpy and often focused on negatives but he told it like it was and didn’t hold back. The world of cricket will be a little poorer without him. RIP I never saw him play but loved his punditry for all them reasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bannedfromHandV Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 11 minutes ago, Zatman said: I never saw him play but loved his punditry for all them reasons Apparently that was just a character/role he played specifically for TV, which makes it even more remarkable really cos he was bloody convincing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imavillan Posted December 30, 2019 Share Posted December 30, 2019 anyone know of any way of watching the Big Bash without a BT sub? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Embarrassingly poor from England. 221-5 to 234-9. Let's hope we bowl more than half decently. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyp102 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 1 hour ago, snowychap said: Embarrassingly poor from England. 221-5 to 234-9. Let's hope we bowl more than half decently. We collapse so often now, I expect it to happen every game 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veloman Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Heard Rob Key, this morning, say England's batting lineup hasn't been strong since Bell, Trott and Pieterson retired and have not been replaced. Well 2 out of 3 ain't bad !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 It’s strange to me that a player with nearly 200 test wickets and 5 test hundreds who was man of the series last time these two test nations met had his central contract stopped, which we now know is the real reason he didn’t put himself up for selection in South Africa. They knew leach had a serious illness while out in New Zealand as well. Really bad management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 I don't blame the players anymore. They're just shit. I blame the ECB for destroying the red ball game in England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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