Rodders Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 Maybe he just needs a much longer break. Now he's out, I imagine that's possibly it for him for a long time. They will give Leach a fair chance and we aren't going to be playing two spinners any series soon, so it's just white ball cricket he has, if he doesn't lose that place. Back for the 20/20 games then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milfner Posted August 9, 2019 Author Share Posted August 9, 2019 Bears just scored 119/9 in their innings against Notts. Only Hain and Sibley into double figures. Feel sorry for those two. This has to the worst batting line up in my lifetime. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 4 hours ago, Rodders said: Maybe he just needs a much longer break. Now he's out, I imagine that's possibly it for him for a long time. They will give Leach a fair chance and we aren't going to be playing two spinners any series soon, so it's just white ball cricket he has, if he doesn't lose that place. Back for the 20/20 games then. If that were the case why would you play him in the first test? What happens if Leach is injured? Do they go to someone else or do they go back to Moeen? My point is that there doesn't seem to be enough thinking about the Test side. This is the Ashes. Unfortunately, that seems to matter little to the ECB, the England set up and the selectors. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 4 hours ago, Rodders said: Maybe he just needs a much longer break. Now he's out, I imagine that's possibly it for him for a long time. They will give Leach a fair chance and we aren't going to be playing two spinners any series soon, so it's just white ball cricket he has, if he doesn't lose that place. Back for the 20/20 games then. He will be back. They will no doubt give Leach this series but the pressure will be on him being the only spinner in the side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 The thing with Mo is that he bowls wicket-taking deliveries but if it's a wearing pitch and you're relying on the spinner to bowl most of the overs and win the game he just isn't good enough. For now we need a spinner to spin it away from Smith and if Mo can't bat in the top 7 then he has to make way. I quite liked the idea of Mo and Rashid in the team even if Rashid was only there to bowl googlies at the tail. Tails wag so regularly nowadays like in the first Test that real pace or wrist spin are worth picking just for that. Rashid is injured now anyway. If they are to move on I'd like Virdi from Surrey to get a go this winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 He has been good enough though and won test matches on many occasions. His record against Australia isn’t good though and he’s zero confidence or even desire at the moment so rightfully Leach gets his chance. Rashid doesn’t want to play test cricket just white ball cricket so how can you pick him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Rashid should never be picked for test cricket as he has effectively retired from first class cricket at Yorkshire. Didn't someone say Ali has taken more test wickets in the last 12 months than anyone else in the world? He is woefully shot of confidence now though so right to give him a break. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 On 10/08/2019 at 11:37, Xela said: Rashid should never be picked for test cricket as he has effectively retired from first class cricket at Yorkshire. Didn't someone say Ali has taken more test wickets in the last 12 months than anyone else in the world? He is woefully shot of confidence now though so right to give him a break. Yes he has at an healthy average of 25. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veloman Posted August 11, 2019 Share Posted August 11, 2019 See ...... I knew Warks would come good 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Great second test this 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 As harsh as it seems I'd gladly see England lose the Ashes 5-0 if it kicked the ECB into some radical thinking about how to save the red ball game in the UK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 On 11/08/2019 at 20:15, veloman said: See ...... I knew Warks would come good Worcs gone to shit in the T20 as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzap24 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 England did well today, Smith didn't even get on the scoreboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 16 hours ago, Xela said: As harsh as it seems I'd gladly see England lose the Ashes 5-0 if it kicked the ECB into some radical thinking about how to save the red ball game in the UK You wouldn't be saying that if you were an Englishman living in Australia! England to bat first. Fingers crossed we're no more than 1 or 2 down by lunch.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 I'll take any of those! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 We need to still be batting by the end of the day, although I absolutely must qualify this and emphasise this just means the first innings. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzap24 Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Good stuff so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhatAboutTheFinish Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Ah Jason Roy, I really rate him as a batsman but a test opener he isn’t...and never will be. He plays at every ball. Leave the bloody thing alone!!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDuck Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, WhatAboutTheFinish said: Ah Jason Roy, I really rate him as a batsman but a test opener he isn’t...and never will be. He plays at every ball. Leave the bloody thing alone!!!! I think there's some merit in dropping Roy down to 4 in place of Denly, and bringing in a proper opener. Problem is of course that every opener we try is hopeless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodders Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 another cheap innings from root. wish we had someone else who could take over as skipper and let root try and discover his talent again 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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