onmeedson Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 Woody Good luck to you I am just an old sceptic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 Woody Good luck to you I am just an old sceptic. Well i worry for my sanity because bar my dad, no one else seems to see that the media is constantly praising a manager who is not winning anything, and his club may not even finish as high as they did last season. But yet we still hear how good he is, and when results go against him people make excuses for him?? I just don't get it. And when I ask people, why? They just disagree but do not seem to have any arguement for why they disagree (probably because he has achieved so little) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 Could have been fans had more faith in moyes putting things right. Exactly!! But lets face it. MON has done what Moyes has done in half the time. Has moyes got Lerner? I dont buy that He had Rooney!! He conned man City for 24 million. Moyes has spent money (yeah wisely) but there not doing ought are they really? Has Hodgeson, Pulis, O driscoll etc got Lerner, and is Lerner that rich? Money just helps you do things quicker. Right, and my point is that Moyes has had money to spend! And still gets the biggest praise of any premier leagure manager (within relevance to achievement). When you have to sell your star player to raise the funds to get the money slightly different I know what your saying but why does the media make out he is so so so good. Am I missing something? He is not the only 1 in his position, and his position is far better than most due to the club he is at I read somewhere Moyes has spent on average over 7 seasons 4.5m net each year not saying he is any better than MON but that is pretty good going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 Could have been fans had more faith in moyes putting things right. Exactly!! But lets face it. MON has done what Moyes has done in half the time. Has moyes got Lerner? I dont buy that He had Rooney!! He conned man City for 24 million. Moyes has spent money (yeah wisely) but there not doing ought are they really? Has Hodgeson, Pulis, O driscoll etc got Lerner, and is Lerner that rich? Money just helps you do things quicker. Right, and my point is that Moyes has had money to spend! And still gets the biggest praise of any premier leagure manager (within relevance to achievement). When you have to sell your star player to raise the funds to get the money slightly different I know what your saying but why does the media make out he is so so so good. Am I missing something? He is not the only 1 in his position, and his position is far better than most due to the club he is at I read somewhere Moyes has spent on average over 7 seasons 4.5m net each year not saying he is any better than MON but that is pretty good going. Yeah good going if your actually winning something!! And like Ive said, hes had some massive transfer sales. Massive!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 If this poll had an option something like "Whatever John Terry said is irrelevant. MON and the team will sort things out in their own way", I might have voted for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponky Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 What did Terry actually say - I can't find any reference to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maradona10 Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 I think the Villa players should just refer to Bellamy's comments in regards to John Terry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mantis Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 If we beat Chelsea in the SF Terry is going to look like a total fool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fifa09don Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 What did Terry actually say - I can't find any reference to it. ditto i cant find it, can someone post a link to what he said? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted March 29, 2010 VT Supporter Share Posted March 29, 2010 To paraphrase him, Terry said they'd watched some videos of us and reckoned that we'd tire about the 60th min and that if they just kept at us we'd capitulate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picicata Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 To paraphrase him, Terry said they'd watched some videos of us and reckoned that we'd tire about the 60th min and that if they just kept at us we'd capitulate. Which is correct - i'm not sure I like living in a world where John Terry can be right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 I hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 We have made the fewest substitutions in the Premier League this season. Same as last season. Small squad, or just fringe players MO'N doesn't trust? Either way, it certainly contributes to the tiredness charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponky Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 Well then Terry's full of shit. It was about the 50th minute we capitulated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrentVilla Posted March 29, 2010 Moderator Share Posted March 29, 2010 We have made the fewest substitutions in the Premier League this season. Same as last season. Small squad, or just fringe players MO'N doesn't trust? Either way, it certainly contributes to the tiredness charge. Is that a fact Rev? I'm not disputing it just wanted to clarify if thats accurate. If so I really wouldn't be surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 When have we ever took players off to give them a rest? We might make subs but don't see how the same subs at 65 minutes - carew for heskey or other way round. Then on 78-88 minutes, Sidwell for Downing, really helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykeyb Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 If MON looks at the game on saturday and plays 4 5 1 in the semi then just maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwivillan Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 Woody Good luck to you I am just an old sceptic. Well i worry for my sanity because bar my dad, no one else seems to see that the media is constantly praising a manager who is not winning anything, and his club may not even finish as high as they did last season. But yet we still hear how good he is, and when results go against him people make excuses for him?? I just don't get it. And when I ask people, why? They just disagree but do not seem to have any arguement for why they disagree (probably because he has achieved so little) You've summed up MON perfectly in those last two paragraphs. Most sensible thing you've ever posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adbo9 Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Could have been fans had more faith in moyes putting things right. Exactly!! But lets face it. MON has done what Moyes has done in half the time. Has moyes got Lerner? or about 150m more to spend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodytom Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Woody Good luck to you I am just an old sceptic. Well i worry for my sanity because bar my dad, no one else seems to see that the media is constantly praising a manager who is not winning anything, and his club may not even finish as high as they did last season. But yet we still hear how good he is, and when results go against him people make excuses for him?? I just don't get it. And when I ask people, why? They just disagree but do not seem to have any arguement for why they disagree (probably because he has achieved so little) You've summed up MON perfectly in those last two paragraphs. Most sensible thing you've ever posted Its a pitty I wasnt talking about Martin O'Neill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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