Awol Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 No not broken, in bloody mess but nothing that can't be fixed with the right mix of carrot and stick. Unfortunately (as CED rightly points out) there is literally no party with policies to address the problems, and consequently no one really worth voting for imo - although I still will just because I think it's right to exercise some form of positive choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVFC-Prideofbrum Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 Where's it broke? I just looked on google and there's nothing about Britain in places not working or whatever, wtf??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 Where's it broke? ah. Think you may just inadvertantly have hit on the answer. Maybe people were answering the question, "Is Britain Broke?", to which the obvious answer is a resounding YES! We are massively broke. Thank you b(w)ankers. But, is Britain Broken? No, not really, although obviously things can be improved upon ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milfner Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubby Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 I am one of the 42 per cent trying to emmigrate. I am fed up with the nanny state, the corrupt politicians who are out of touch with the majority of us and the debt that is constantly sitting on our society as a result of bad decision making and relaxed banking laws. Change just isn't around the corner and I want out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundeevilla Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 I am one of the 42 per cent trying to emmigrate. I am fed up with the nanny state, the corrupt politicians who are out of touch with the majority of us and the debt that is constantly sitting on our society as a result of bad decision making and relaxed banking laws. Change just isn't around the corner and I want out. Where are you moving to? Everywhere has its problems. Broken Britain is a term coined by the Tories and the right-wing media. and is a lot a shite. Everything is tickety boo round our way. More or less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubby Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 I am one of the 42 per cent trying to emmigrate. I am fed up with the nanny state, the corrupt politicians who are out of touch with the majority of us and the debt that is constantly sitting on our society as a result of bad decision making and relaxed banking laws. Change just isn't around the corner and I want out. Where are you moving to? Everywhere has its problems. Broken Britain is a term coined by the Tories and the right-wing media. and is a lot a shite. Everything is tickety boo round our way. More or less. I haven't really found my perfect place really, it won't be a permanent decision anyway, I like to move around and with that philosophy I don't intend to stick around either. Maybe I can return one day when things have flattened out a tad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 I am one of the 42 per cent trying to emmigrate. I am fed up with the nanny state, the corrupt politicians who are out of touch with the majority of us and the debt that is constantly sitting on our society as a result of bad decision making and relaxed banking laws. Change just isn't around the corner and I want out. Amen. I'm off on Monday the 15th and can't wait. Literally dozens of the people I went to Uni with have left for Oz, the US, Canada or NZ in the last three or four years - loads of people I served with have done the same. People who think that Britain is not broken, but bad and declining across many spheres of life (and have the option to leave) have been voting with their feet for a while now. It'd be interesting to know the main reasons given for leaving by recent UK emigres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 People who think that Britain is not broken, but bad and declining across many spheres of life (and have the option to leave) have been voting with their feet for a while now. It'd be interesting to know the main reasons given for leaving by recent UK emigres. I'm one of those. While I haven't moved very far in terms of distance, it's a world away in terms of quality of life. I think "bad and declining" sums up my view of the UK. I don't want to sound like a Daily Heil reader, but this is a just quick view of what i think some of the problems are: Schools - mostly shit, full of out of control pupils with no respect for their powerless teachers. My mum, sister and two sisters-in-law are all teachers, and they all say things are far worse than they were 15 years ago. I accept that there are still some decent schools out there, but they're getting fewer and further between. Binge drinking and general anti-social behaviour - now I like a few drinks as much as the next man, and certainly was no saint in my younger days, but many towns in the North West where I spent much of the last 20 years are like the bloody Wild West. When I first moved to Wigan in the early 90s, you go out and have a laugh with your mates without any fear of trouble. Now thanks to the dozens and dozens pubs in a tiny area, you take your life in your hands. Every time I go back now there are police and paramedics everywhere seeing to the consequences of fights. Again, far worse than it was 15 or so years ago. Transport - roads are getting busier and busier, and public transport just isn't being improved upon as a viable alternative. Anyway, that's enough moaning for now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 Serious question: When exactly were the good old days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulMcgrathsknees Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 It is breaking. Give it 5 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted February 9, 2010 Author Share Posted February 9, 2010 I am one of the 42 per cent trying to emmigrate. I am fed up with the nanny state, the corrupt politicians who are out of touch with the majority of us and the debt that is constantly sitting on our society as a result of bad decision making and relaxed banking laws. Change just isn't around the corner and I want out. Amen. I'm off on Monday the 15th and can't wait. Literally dozens of the people I went to Uni with have left for Oz, the US, Canada or NZ in the last three or four years - loads of people I served with have done the same. People who think that Britain is not broken, but bad and declining across many spheres of life (and have the option to leave) have been voting with their feet for a while now. It'd be interesting to know the main reasons given for leaving by recent UK emigres. Yet so many Aussies, Kiwi's, South Africans and Europeans keep moving here, well to London anyway. Perhaps we could set up some sort of official exchange programme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubby Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 People who think that Britain is not broken, but bad and declining across many spheres of life (and have the option to leave) have been voting with their feet for a while now. It'd be interesting to know the main reasons given for leaving by recent UK emigres. I'm one of those. While I haven't moved very far in terms of distance, it's a world away in terms of quality of life. Quality of life > Living in Britain In my opinion anyway. There are places I have been to in this World where people make do but live happily and seeing it changed my perspective on how I should live my life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubby Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 I am one of the 42 per cent trying to emmigrate. I am fed up with the nanny state, the corrupt politicians who are out of touch with the majority of us and the debt that is constantly sitting on our society as a result of bad decision making and relaxed banking laws. Change just isn't around the corner and I want out. Amen. I'm off on Monday the 15th and can't wait. Literally dozens of the people I went to Uni with have left for Oz, the US, Canada or NZ in the last three or four years - loads of people I served with have done the same. People who think that Britain is not broken, but bad and declining across many spheres of life (and have the option to leave) have been voting with their feet for a while now. It'd be interesting to know the main reasons given for leaving by recent UK emigres. Yet so many Aussies, Kiwi's, South Africans and Europeans keep moving here, well to London anyway. Perhaps we could set up some sort of official exchange programme yeah I work with an Aussie and Kiwi, I just don't get why they came here other than having London on their CV! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonLax Posted February 9, 2010 Author Share Posted February 9, 2010 yeah I work with an Aussie and Kiwi, I just don't get why they came here other than having London on their CV! It's because Australia is so far away from the rest of the world! I can't go on weekend breaks to Europe from OZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 Serious question: When exactly were the good old days? I don't know. Before that clearing in the woods Bliar and his witless chum Brown got in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 Binge drinking and general anti-social behaviour - now I like a few drinks as much as the next man, and certainly was no saint in my younger days, but many towns in the North West where I spent much of the last 20 years are like the bloody Wild West. When I first moved to Wigan in the early 90s, you go out and have a laugh with your mates without any fear of trouble. Now thanks to the dozens and dozens pubs in a tiny area, you take your life in your hands. Every time I go back now there are police and paramedics everywhere seeing to the consequences of fights. Again, far worse than it was 15 or so years ago. Yet, I went out on Saturday night in Worcester for the first time in a couple of years and, apart from the ill behaviour in the pub where I was watching the game, it seemed pretty much the same as it used to be a few years ago (actually Wetherspoons was quieter and better behaved than it used to be). I didn't hang around until club kicking out time so I can't vouch for whether that was any worse than either a few years ago when there were large amounts of rozzers, drunks and fights or twenty years ago when Worcester was an exceptionally violent city on a Friday and Saturday night (pretty regular stabbings in the Crown passage, meat wagons stationed at either end of town all night, i.e. from about 8pm onwards, and various other things). I'm not doubting what you see has happened in the North West but I thought I'd chuck in a viewpoint of somewhere else. On the 'binge drinking' business, I'm firmly with Frankie Boyle - it's what we used to call drinking; and as for 'preloading' being a new phenomenon, well, that's what I was doing twenty years ago as a teenager and we used to call it budget management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KAZZAM Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 Serious question: When exactly were the good old days? Rev wins - Nostalgia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDon Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 Serious question: When exactly were the good old days? I don't know. Before that clearing in the woods Bliar and his witless chum Brown got in? The entire reason Blair got in were because those "good old days" were **** dreadful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted February 10, 2010 Share Posted February 10, 2010 Serious question: When exactly were the good old days? I don't know. Before that clearing in the woods Bliar and his witless chum Brown got in? The entire reason Blair got in were because those "good old days" were **** dreadful! I thought he got in because of his image as a clean, sincere and trustable/likeable kinda guy - the antidote to Tory sleaze, arrogance and hubris. Have to say I don't recall the years 91-97 being "**** dreadful" at all, mostly the opposite in fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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