TheWalletInspector Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 Didn't know that But from what I read it seems the Klits are masters of the dodge, I assumed that's what was happening here Don't agree with that tbh, Rob. There hasn't been anyone to dodge in the heavyweight division reallly, and to be fair to Vitali he was desperate for a rematch with Lewis. That loss to Lewis is still the most impressive thing on his record, which just about sums it up really Arguments still rage on ESB about that rematch. Call me old fashioned and all that but if the champion turns your face into mincemeat in 6 rounds then you really can't whine about not getting a rematch, especially when the champion is not far off 40 years old He was up on the scorecards though so they do have a point. I don't see why the champ should be looked upon badly for retiring when he was in the worst shape of his career though. What makes me laugh is that they seem to think him being up on the cards equals a victory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 Yeah. It's insane. The talk of a rematch is insane too, I mean I am pretty sure I could knock seven bells of shit out of Muhummad Ali if we had a fight tomorrow. Doesn't mean I am better than he was, does it? Oh, and for the Haye vs Wlad: David gives his side of the story on his Youtube channel. It's odd how Haye was saying he would fight for free not so long back because he only cared about his legacy and winning the title and now it's all about money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oaks Posted September 12, 2010 Share Posted September 12, 2010 Hattons been caught snorting. link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witton_Lane Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 The Klits are rubbish aren't they? I reckon Haye will hammer both of 'em if they ever grow a pair Wlad Klitschko, the lineal heavyweight champion, offered Haye 50/50 and he turned it down to fight Harrison. Who needs to grow a pair? This 'lineal' shit means nothing to be honest, and I'm not sure Wlad even is that but I can't be bothered to check. There's so many stupid belts these days... However if Haye is ducking Klitschko and waiting for him to get old then that's a bit of a words removed trick normally, but considering Klitschkos history of fighting shot fighters I wouldn't hold it against Haye too much in this instance. If I were Haye I'd be champing at the bit to get the man into the ring though, he (Klitschko) looked awful last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witton_Lane Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 Didn't know that But from what I read it seems the Klits are masters of the dodge, I assumed that's what was happening here Don't agree with that tbh, Rob. There hasn't been anyone to dodge in the heavyweight division reallly, and to be fair to Vitali he was desperate for a rematch with Lewis. That loss to Lewis is still the most impressive thing on his record, which just about sums it up really Arguments still rage on ESB about that rematch. Call me old fashioned and all that but if the champion turns your face into mincemeat in 6 rounds then you really can't whine about not getting a rematch, especially when the champion is not far off 40 years old He was up on the scorecards though so they do have a point. I don't see why the champ should be looked upon badly for retiring when he was in the worst shape of his career though. What makes me laugh is that they seem to think him being up on the cards equals a victory They actually have no point whatsoever, I could name dozens of fights where fighters lost while being down on the cards and there was no rematch. The one that springs immediately to mind is Tyson V Botha, Tyson lost every minute of that fight until he nailed Botha and no-one said anything. It's not who wins the battles it's who wins the war and Lewis despite his age and conditioning just beat the living shit out of Vitaly that night. Lewis was also down 4-2 on the cards when he stopped Bruno, no rematch, no crying from Bruno or his fans. To be honest the cards in that Klitschko fight are a bit crap if you ask me, I had it 3-3 and could make a reasonable argument for 4-2 to Lewis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witton_Lane Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 The Klits are rubbish aren't they? I reckon Haye will hammer both of 'em if they ever grow a pairWlad Klitschko, the lineal heavyweight champion, offered Haye 50/50 and he turned it down to fight Harrison. Who needs to grow a pair?He didn't offer him 50-50. Haye asked for 50-50 and was offered 50-50 on everything except Germany where Klit wanted 100%. So Haye offered 50-50 but Klit takes the German money and Haye takes the British moneyThe only place I've seen that offered as a version of the story is in a haye interview with the sun. Other stories have slightly different lines including Vitali saying a 50/50 deal for worldwide revenue was on the table. So it's a little confused. Even if they had agreed, Haye would have developed a bad back again. It's true that Haye having a bad back was nonsense for the fight with Wlad last year but the real reason the fight didn't happen was because Setanta went bust, and that's where the majority of Haye's money was coming from. I'll give Haye the benefit of the doubt on that one but he's not covering himself in glory with the Harrison fight that's for **** sure. If he doesn't fight one of the Klitschkos in the next 12 months then yeah he's going to look pretty stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWalletInspector Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 The Klits are rubbish aren't they? I reckon Haye will hammer both of 'em if they ever grow a pair Wlad Klitschko, the lineal heavyweight champion, offered Haye 50/50 and he turned it down to fight Harrison. Who needs to grow a pair? This 'lineal' shit means nothing to be honest, and I'm not sure Wlad even is that but I can't be bothered to check. There's so many stupid belts these days... However if Haye is ducking Klitschko and waiting for him to get old then that's a bit of a words removed trick normally, but considering Klitschkos history of fighting shot fighters I wouldn't hold it against Haye too much in this instance. If I were Haye I'd be champing at the bit to get the man into the ring though, he (Klitschko) looked awful last night. The Ring is the only one I'll give any credibility to. Hence why I didn't mention his bullshit IBO strap (which he seems to love :?) or any others. You'll have to take my word that he is. Surely even you can't deny that he currently deserves that. In the Peter fight I could see some good signs for Haye. I'm pretty sure he would have no problems getting under the jab. Even Peter was for the first 2 rounds. Talking of Lewis, I love knockdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted September 13, 2010 Share Posted September 13, 2010 The bolo punch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWalletInspector Posted September 17, 2010 Share Posted September 17, 2010 Not long now boys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWalletInspector Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 DeGale TKO1 Dilks. Stoppage a bit early for me. Warren and DeGale call out Groves for Dec 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainer Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Shit has Mag 7 already started? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWalletInspector Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Started at 6 mate. Hall got stopped in the 6th, says he's retiring now. Cleverly halfway through a cracker with Murat at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWalletInspector Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Murat stopped before the start of the 10th. Another dodgy decision imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainer Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 I was just reading the minute by minute updates on Sky Sports site for the Cleverly fight, seemed a cracker! Frank Warren wasn't too impressed in the early rounds by the sounds of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Alimantado Posted September 18, 2010 VT Supporter Share Posted September 18, 2010 Naseem Hamed's a big boy these days isn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWalletInspector Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Was a cracker, Rainer. Frank wanted him to fight a smarter fight rather than swinging and leaving himself open to shots against someone who had been considered a puncher. Naz is a right porker A couple of quotes from him: "The second coming of Naz is here...I know that's high praise" Modest as ever "You know who I want to see him in with?... Manny Pacquiao...I see Kell knocking Pacquiao out" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWalletInspector Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Jennings stopped on a cut in the 5th round. I'd gave Brook all 4 rounds but still a bit of an anti-climax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gringo Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Two blokes trying to whack the feck out of each other and commentator apologises in case anyone is offended by the language of the corners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gringo Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 That was a punch. End of Enzo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packoman Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 The first knock down was huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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