Johnnyp Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Just now, villarule123 said: Frank Warren looks pissed Yeah, Dubois was Warren's boy even though he promotes both. In hindsight looking back at it , Joyce fought Tony Yoka in the Olympics. Fought Hrgovic. Great fight against Usyk in the WSB. I think Dubois listened to everybody hyping him up a bit too much. He looked worried by the 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Johnnyp said: Dubois quit. If you are a young fighter and that's in you, it ain't good. First time tonight where some one was hitting him back and he didn't like it. You can't really argue with that. I never really brought into the hype. All that knocking Joshua out in sparring. You're right, it looks like he's been found out. Remember Eubank's eye against Thompson? They literally had to drag Eubank out the ring. You can't teach that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyp Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, sheepyvillian said: You can't really argue with that. I never really brought into the hype. All that knocking Joshua out in sparring. You're right, it looks like he's been found out. Remember Eubank's eye against Thompson? They literally had to drag Eubank out the ring. You can't teach that. I understood the logic of how he was matched because he had such limited amateur experience but went from his best opponent in Nathan Gorman to a fella who's won world amateur championship and who many felt should of won gold in Rio. He's going to be really hard to sell to the public now. Warren knows if he puts him in with anyone half decent and gets beaten again, he's probably done at what, 24 ? Joyce had fought Jennings and Stiverne. Dubois fought Gorman. When that eye heels, I'd be hooking him up with a trainer who can teach him the basics of slipping a jab and feinting. His corner were brutal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinker Posted November 29, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted November 29, 2020 Joyce deserved it, had to fight to get his chances . Even getting to the Olympics was a battle for him, then he was robbed . Be poetic justice if he beats Joshua , great professional . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 9 minutes ago, Johnnyp said: I understood the logic of how he was matched because he had such limited amateur experience but went from his best opponent in Nathan Gorman to a fella who's won world amateur championship and who many felt should of won gold in Rio. He's going to be really hard to sell to the public now. Warren knows if he puts him in with anyone half decent and gets beaten again, he's probably done at what, 24 ? Joyce had fought Jennings and Stiverne. Dubois fought Gorman. When that eye heels, I'd be hooking him up with a trainer who can teach him the basics of slipping a jab and feinting. His corner were brutal. And that was a Gorman, whose mind was elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyp Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, tinker said: Joyce deserved it, had to fight to get his chances . Even getting to the Olympics was a battle for him, then he was robbed . Be poetic justice if he beats Joshua , great professional . It's a weird one. He doesn't look much but at the same time he'd be a handful for anyone. Beat Jennings too. That's a great win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Follyfoot Posted November 29, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted November 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, Johnnyp said: Harsh but fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 One of the judges had Dubois eight rounds ahead. Warren, it seems, had the judges in his pocket. No way was Dubois that far ahead, if he were ahead at all. I think anyone who really understood the boxing game really knew that Joyce was in with a great chance of beating Dubois, and so it proved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Johnnyp said: Always been my favourite boxing commentator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyp Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Early thoughts on Canelo - Smith ? I don't see Canelo struggling with Smith at all. He'll hit with him regularity. The two hardest fights i think Canelo had in terms of frustration was Mayweather and Lara. And many felt Lara won that fight. You can't throw bombs with him, he'll clean you out. Great footwork and pot shotting is the way to beat him. Smith will too easy to tag i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 27 minutes ago, Johnnyp said: Early thoughts on Canelo - Smith ? I don't see Canelo struggling with Smith at all. He'll hit with him regularity. The two hardest fights i think Canelo had in terms of frustration was Mayweather and Lara. And many felt Lara won that fight. You can't throw bombs with him, he'll clean you out. Great footwork and pot shotting is the way to beat him. Smith will too easy to tag i think. I think it will be reminiscent of the Fielding fight, just a little later, maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete101 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Production on this Tyson v Jones event is pathetic , the camera work is making the fights unwatchable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 So as expected Badou Jack had no problem winning against the ex military guy who apparently was suffering from PTSD from the war in Iraq. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 (edited) Turns out watching two old guys hug isn't as exciting as it sounds Edit: The even older guy who refereeing the match is wearing a face mask but he wearing it under his nose so that's mildly entertaining I guess. What a moron. Edited November 29, 2020 by sne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted November 29, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted November 29, 2020 5 hours ago, sheepyvillian said: One of the judges had Dubois eight rounds ahead. Warren, it seems, had the judges in his pocket. No way was Dubois that far ahead, if he were ahead at all. I think anyone who really understood the boxing game really knew that Joyce was in with a great chance of beating Dubois, and so it proved. Made enough to pay for my lads 16th next week in full and change. Luverly jubberely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Follyfoot said: Made enough to pay for my lads 16th next week in full and change. Luverly jubberely I couldn't believe the odds myself. They seriously misjudged that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Best thing about Tyson - Jones was Snoop Dogg on commentary. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Always thought that Yarde was a limited fighter who got by on power alone, no real amateur experience and problems with this stamina. Last night I thought he was disgraceful, he was outboxed by a bloke with one hand and he didn't force the fight until the very last round, the way he spit his dummy out of the pram after the fight was embarrassing, claimed it was a robbery, said that he refused to accept it as a loss. I think it hit home to him that he has fallen from the highs of Kov to the lows of getting beat by a domestic level opponent, he obviously thinks he is at a higher level than he actually is currently. Spence looked great from what I saw, I was half asleep and did nod off at one point but it looked like he was edging an awful lot of close rounds and Garcia only won a few from what I managed to catch. Nice to see that the he seems to have fully recovered from the crash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Follyfoot Posted December 6, 2020 VT Supporter Share Posted December 6, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, leemond2008 said: Always thought that Yarde was a limited fighter who got by on power alone, no real amateur experience and problems with this stamina. Last night I thought he was disgraceful, he was outboxed by a bloke with one hand and he didn't force the fight until the very last round, the way he spit his dummy out of the pram after the fight was embarrassing, claimed it was a robbery, said that he refused to accept it as a loss. I think it hit home to him that he has fallen from the highs of Kov to the lows of getting beat by a domestic level opponent, he obviously thinks he is at a higher level than he actually is currently. Spence looked great from what I saw, I was half asleep and did nod off at one point but it looked like he was edging an awful lot of close rounds and Garcia only won a few from what I managed to catch. Nice to see that the he seems to have fully recovered from the crash Yes he did, bring on Crawford you would hope but a lot of politics in play sadly Edited December 6, 2020 by Follyfoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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