leemond2008 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 they have got a yank and a Canadian judging it so could Truax have a chance if it goes to points? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted December 9, 2017 Author Share Posted December 9, 2017 Well deserved Truax, scored it 8-4 to him, clear winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Imagine what Eubank would of done to DeGale's opponent . Hasn't got the work rate to be one of the very best ,and he found that to his cost tonight . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Right I'm gunna get an hours kip and then get myself up for the Loma v Rigo card DeGale needs to forget about Groves for the time being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 The Lomanchecko fight has to go down has the greatest anti - climax of all time . It was like Walters all over again . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepyvillian Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 5 hours ago, leemond2008 said: Right I'm gunna get an hours kip and then get myself up for the Loma v Rigo card DeGale needs to forget about Groves for the time being. Hopefully you didn't wake up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 8 minutes ago, sheepyvillian said: Hopefully you didn't wake up. Unfortunately I did. Rigo bottled it, Loma wasn't exactly landing concussive blows and beating him up, if he didn' quit he'd of got himself dq'd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted December 10, 2017 Author Share Posted December 10, 2017 Rigondeaux was so focused on defence that he basically lost all rounds in the fight (except maybe the first) down to simple lack of activity, Lomachenko was throwing far more and landing far more. Rigo's main defensive tactics were incessant holding (reminding me of that Akinwande vs Lewis fight all those years ago) and ducking, at times, below the waist, which is in itself illegal. After he lost the point I reckon he figured he was so far down that he had absolutely no chance of winning. Lomachenko was also increasingly landing hard clean shots on Rigondeaux and a couple of times he appeared to be momentarily shaken. I think he knew a landslide decision or even stoppage was on the cards so he simply gave up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 46 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: Rigondeaux was so focused on defence that he basically lost all rounds in the fight (except maybe the first) down to simple lack of activity, Lomachenko was throwing far more and landing far more. Rigo's main defensive tactics were incessant holding (reminding me of that Akinwande vs Lewis fight all those years ago) and ducking, at times, below the waist, which is in itself illegal. After he lost the point I reckon he figured he was so far down that he had absolutely no chance of winning. Lomachenko was also increasingly landing hard clean shots on Rigondeaux and a couple of times he appeared to be momentarily shaken. I think he knew a landslide decision or even stoppage was on the cards so he simply gave up. It's still inexcusable though, Loma was landing but as I said before they were not exactly concussive blows, they were more scoring shots. I don't know if Rigo underestimated the weight factor but he just didn't seem up for it from the first bell. Still no reason for him to retire on his stool though and as Buncey said, you can't tell me that he has never hurt his hand in 300 fights, he bottled it, massive let down. He also gave Loma no credit at all after the fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted December 10, 2017 Author Share Posted December 10, 2017 3 hours ago, leemond2008 said: It's still inexcusable though, Loma was landing but as I said before they were not exactly concussive blows, they were more scoring shots. I don't know if Rigo underestimated the weight factor but he just didn't seem up for it from the first bell. Still no reason for him to retire on his stool though and as Buncey said, you can't tell me that he has never hurt his hand in 300 fights, he bottled it, massive let down. He also gave Loma no credit at all after the fight. A couple of Lomachenko shots definitely had him momentarily stunned IMO. For me Rigo came in with a game plan that he couldn't execute. His excessive holding on the inside was a clear strategy from the first bell, so was his decision to duck low, as it's of course hard to hit someone meaningfully when they are that low down. The problem he had was that he couldn't counter Lomachenko effectively due to Lomachenko's superior footwork and understanding of distance. By the end of the 6th round I had it 5-0 (and 1 round even) to Lomachenko with Rigo losing an extra point due to being penalised for holding. At this stage, Rigo knew that he was down by a total landslide, and knew he couldn't hold anymore. On top of this he was getting outlanded and increasingly power shots were landing, so he simply gave up as he had no chance of winning. Without wanting to sound racist there's a tendency for Cuban fighters to not show a great deal of heart in fights, Rigo definitely fits into that mould. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 10, 2017 Share Posted December 10, 2017 Loma vs Garcia next? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tegis Posted December 11, 2017 VT Supporter Share Posted December 11, 2017 Erik Skoglund still in a medically induced coma and has had surgery, falling ill after a training-session. (intracranial bleed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 So looks like Ortiz vs Wilder is back on. At last Wilder fights someone half decent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Career best performance from Billy Joe Saunders there, Lemmy always struggles against boxers but he was made to look decidedly average in there. I think that the weight hurt him, he tried to turn into the Hulk overnight and it worked against him. BJS boxed beautifully though, Lemmy accused him of running even though his face was all marked up, that doesn't happen when someone is running for 12 rounds. Also he blamed an injury to his left hand, that must have been the same injury that Rigo suffered, it must hurt to constantly punch fresh air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted December 17, 2017 Moderator Share Posted December 17, 2017 I hate Billy Joe Saunders - but he looked very capable in that win. it's a pity for him that Canelo and Golovkin only have eyes for each other at the moment. Where else should he be looking for his next fight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 49 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: I hate Billy Joe Saunders - but he looked very capable in that win. it's a pity for him that Canelo and Golovkin only have eyes for each other at the moment. Where else should he be looking for his next fight? Well if he fights and beats Danny Jacobs convincingly then that would put him in a wonderful position especially after GGG v Jacobs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakotaDakota Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 (edited) The switch to Dominic Ingle seems to have done him the world of good, Barely been hit in the past 2 fights although in the previous fight Monroe just seemed to be there for the money rather than to actually fight. He is very good when he wants to be but don't really think he has the power to trouble GGG/Canelo although i am not sure either of them (Especially GGG) would particularly fancy trying to chase him round the ring like last night Edited December 17, 2017 by LakotaDakota Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted December 17, 2017 Author Share Posted December 17, 2017 47 minutes ago, leemond2008 said: Well if he fights and beats Danny Jacobs convincingly then that would put him in a wonderful position especially after GGG v Jacobs. He won't beat Jacobs though. Great game plan against the exceptionally crude Lemieux but overall BJS is average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Pangloss Posted December 17, 2017 Author Share Posted December 17, 2017 30 minutes ago, LakotaDakota said: The switch to Dominic Ingle seems to have done him the world of good, Barely been hit in the past 2 fights although in the previous fight Monroe just seemed to be there for the money rather than to actually fight. He is very good when he wants to be but don't really think he has the power to trouble GGG/Canelo although i am not sure either of them (Especially GGG) would particularly fancy trying to chase him round the ring like last night That said, for what GGG lacks in handspeed he has in footspeed, he'd get to BJS and this will be heightened by the fact that BJS won't have the power to keep him honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leemond2008 Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 7 minutes ago, Dr_Pangloss said: He won't beat Jacobs though. Great game plan against the exceptionally crude Lemieux but overall BJS is average. It'd be a big ask but the thing with BJS is that he needs to stay active and I think that he will only be able to get himself up for big fights, what he doesn't want to do is sit on his arse for 9 months and wait for GGG/Canelo Ingle has done a fantastic job with him though and it almost seems like a father son sort of relationship that they have got going on at the moment. I wouldn't exactly call BJS feather fisted and he does have enough pop to keep his opponents honest...however... GGG is a completely different animal and yeah...BJS wouldn't be able to keep him honest. Golovkin would cut the ring down as Dr P said, he wouldn't just be coming forward in straight lines. Whilst it was a brilliant performance from Billy Joe, people can't get carried away and think that beating Lemmy means that he is in with a chance against GGG or Canelo, yeah it certainly makes the fight more interesting but ultimately it'll be the same result. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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