villa4europe Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 @Rugeley Villa you might like this piece in the NME Quote Birmingham is crying out for a permanent museum to the birthplace of an entire genre, and there's a pretty good one in town right now... Earlier this summer, guitarist Tony Iommi and bassist and lyricist Geezer Butler returned to Birmingham for the opening of an exhaustive exhibition about Black Sabbath, the band they formed in the city 50 years ago. Birmingham Museum & Art Gallery is currently home to a vast collection of both the band’s own memorabilia and a staggering array of fan tributes. Asked if there was anything not present in the collection that they expected to see, Butler couldn’t resist a quip: “Ozzy?” https://www.nme.com/features/black-sabbath-made-birmingham-home-metal-shouldnt-city-repay-favour-2539401 FWIW its right too, Brum being Brum making pretty nothing out of what its got whilst everyone else shouts it from the rooftops 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjmooney Posted August 19, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted August 19, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, villa4europe said: @Rugeley Villa you might like this piece in the NME https://www.nme.com/features/black-sabbath-made-birmingham-home-metal-shouldnt-city-repay-favour-2539401 FWIW its right too, Brum being Brum making pretty nothing out of what its got whilst everyone else shouts it from the rooftops Totally different genre, I know, but it's apparently like that in Hibbing, Minnesota, where Bob Dylan grew up. You'd think that having one of the most successful songwriters of the past 75 years as a local lad might encourage a bit of tourist cash-in, but by all accounts there's very little evidence of it. Edited August 19, 2019 by mjmooney 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 49 minutes ago, villa4europe said: @Rugeley Villa you might like this piece in the NME https://www.nme.com/features/black-sabbath-made-birmingham-home-metal-shouldnt-city-repay-favour-2539401 FWIW its right too, Brum being Brum making pretty nothing out of what its got whilst everyone else shouts it from the rooftops I’ve always thought Sabbath should be to Brum what The Beatles are to Liverpool . Sabbath are one of those bands that will never die. You’ll always have thousands and thousands of young kids discovering them and being big fans. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Hit it hard and claim led zep as a Midlands band while they're at it, it'll always be disputed but at least stake a claim, publicity from the debate won't hurt Music, the football league museum, even peaky blinders, the city is useless at promoting itself at the best of times but in terms of pop culture its terrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 47 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: I’ve always thought Sabbath should be to Brum what The Beatles are to Liverpool . Sabbath are one of those bands that will never die. You’ll always have thousands and thousands of young kids discovering them and being big fans. Agreed. Same as ELO... they get a lot of younger fans discovering their music. Fantastic band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 19, 2019 Moderator Share Posted August 19, 2019 What about Duran Duran,? Much bigger than Sabbath ever were? Boy George for that matter, much more important in music than that Ozzy fella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 26 minutes ago, villa4europe said: Hit it hard and claim led zep as a Midlands band while they're at it, it'll always be disputed but at least stake a claim, publicity from the debate won't hurt Music, the football league museum, even peaky blinders, the city is useless at promoting itself at the best of times but in terms of pop culture its terrible Half of Zep came from the outskirts of Brum. Zeppelin feel and sound like a midlands band rather than a London band where Page and Jones are from. The Who are a proper London band and you hear it and feel it in their music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, bickster said: What about Duran Duran,? Much bigger than Sabbath ever were? Boy George for that matter, much more important in music than that Ozzy fella Blasphemy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 19, 2019 Moderator Share Posted August 19, 2019 Quote Blasphemy UB40 are bigger than Sabbath too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, bickster said: UB40 are bigger than Sabbath too. You going off album sales? Sabbath were an underground band that became very big. Very few singles, not radio friendly. I think Sabbath did alright to shift 80m albums from the Ozzy era . Sabbath stood by themselves and are the iconic band for the city of Birmingham. They are also the most influential band apart from the Beatles . Edited August 19, 2019 by Rugeley Villa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 19, 2019 Moderator Share Posted August 19, 2019 Just now, Rugeley Villa said: You going off album sales? Sabbath were an underground band that became very big. Very few singles, not radio friendly. I think Sabbath did alright to shift 80m albums from the Ozzy era . Sabbath stood by themselves and are the iconic band for the city of Birmingham. No, I'm going on sheer talent 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Just now, bickster said: No, I'm going on sheer talent Now I know you’re taking the piss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 I despise UB40. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wazzap24 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 23 minutes ago, bickster said: UB40 are bigger than Sabbath too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 10 minutes ago, Xela said: I despise UB40. Mainly white folk playing plastic Reggae? Yeah, I do too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 19, 2019 Moderator Share Posted August 19, 2019 10 minutes ago, Xela said: I despise UB40. Me too, though the first two albums do provide some social commentary on the times but in terms of music, the wind out of my arse makes better reggae tunes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 19, 2019 Moderator Share Posted August 19, 2019 11 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: Mainly white folk playing plastic Reggae? Yeah, I do too. 50 / 50, not mainly white. Plastic reggae I'll give you though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugeley Villa Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 1 minute ago, bickster said: 50 / 50, not mainly white. Plastic reggae I'll give you though Are they a Blues band ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisp65 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Aye, thinking about it, I simply wouldn’t associate Birmingham with the birthplace of any music or band. There’s the obvious Liverpool thing, London, Manchester. But for me personally, I’d have The Specials in Coventry and then I’d have to be thinking rather than just rattling off the names. Which can only be that Birmingham / Midlands is poor at self promotion. I think we’ve had a conversation around it before, you put the Olympics in London, Newcastle, Norwich or Exeter and they’d have a 4 year promotion as being the centre of the universe. Stick it in Birmingham and folk would complain about parking chaos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted August 19, 2019 Moderator Share Posted August 19, 2019 52 minutes ago, Rugeley Villa said: Are they a Blues band ? I’m fairly sure the Campbell brothers (all three of them) are. Not sure if the others even follow football 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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