AvfcRigo82 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, Demitri_C said: So visiting brum this weekend am staying close to New Street and I have to say since my last visit there are a hell of a lot more poverty than all my previous visits. A lot of people begging, homelessness also. Are things really that bad here for those that live here? It's getting this way big style in alot of places Dem, not just the Midlands. The stats keep rising and it's shocking. There is no way out for many folk falling on hardtimes. Resources etc over overstreched or drying up. (Unfortunately, most of the folk begging and pleading homelessness that you mention, around 30% are geuine cases - sadly, the rest are just con men or junkies ruining it for the genuine who HAVE lost everything and don't have nowhere to go and turned down for help by local authorities etc.) It's quite shocking really. Believe it or not, I am sofa surfing myself at a friends house until further notice. There are alot of factors that has led to many more landing in this position and the numbers will only keep rising while things remain poor how they are in this country. Wages stagnating, Jobs paying peanuts wages or even closing altogether or moving, rentals and bills rising against inflation etc. Let's not get started on Universal Credit that also affect many heavily reliant upon it. Edited February 10, 2019 by AvfcRigo82 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted February 10, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted February 10, 2019 25 minutes ago, AvfcRigo82 said: Seriously mate. If I was you. Get them to f*** straight away. We were roped in years ago by some twunt in the playground who'd just became a rep for them and shoving down everyones throats to sign up... before even reading or mulling over who they where and what they offered the missus at the time had already said yes and signed up. Clever cloggs! The company - All happy with you at first but god damn they are a nightmare. Me and Ex at time had a battle with these **** for well over a year that involved Pre Payment meters.. hiked debt added to the metres with interest that could never financial viably add up and be paid, baliff visits, the lot. A poisonous little company despite numerous attempts to contact them to come to a suitable arrangement and find out why they were acting like bastards. You're met with little jumped up **** on the other end of the phone that just made things worse snd docunent aload of lies or not even document your call at all. Stick with some of the 'named' companies. Npower etc. Trust me. wow...ok cheers for the heads up! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 18 minutes ago, AvfcRigo82 said: It's getting this way big style in alot of places Dem, not just the Midlands. The stats keep rising and it's shocking. There is no way out for many folk falling on hardtimes. Resources etc over overstreched or drying up. (Unfortunately, most of the folk begging and pleading homelessness that you mention, around 30% are geuine cases - sadly, the rest are just con men or junkies ruining it for the genuine who HAVE lost everything and don't have nowhere to go and turned down for help by local authorities etc.) It's quite shocking really. Believe it or not, I am sofa surfing myself at a friends house until further notice. There are alot of factors that has led to many more landing in this position and the numbers will only keep rising while things remain poor how they are in this country. Wages stagnating, Jobs paying peanuts wages or even closing altogether or moving, rentals and bills rising against inflation etc. Let's not get started on Universal Credit that also affect many heavily reliant upon it. Sorry to hear about your own circumstances mate. I think there is a lot of truth in that. I can spot on the con ones in most cases the way they are dressed behave etc. I think the cost of living and the cost of homes is what’s killing everyone here, sadly I think it’s only going to get worse by the end of the year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Demitri_C said: Sorry to hear about your own circumstances mate. I think there is a lot of truth in that. I can spot on the con ones in most cases the way they are dressed behave etc. I think the cost of living and the cost of homes is what’s killing everyone here, sadly I think it’s only going to get worse by the end of the year. That's before brexit is even mentioned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bickster Posted February 10, 2019 Moderator Share Posted February 10, 2019 27 minutes ago, AvfcRigo82 said: It's getting this way big style in alot of places Dem, not just the Midlands. Same in Liverpool, I've never seen so many homeless people 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 10 hours ago, Demitri_C said: A lot of people begging, homelessness also. Well, you voted Tory, what were you expecting? Don't you go out in London either? They're all over. There's an army of beggars at Vauxhall. F****** Vauxhall?!? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 Just now, Xann said: Well, you voted Tory, what were you expecting? Don't you go out in London either? They're all over. There's an army of beggars at Vauxhall. F****** Vauxhall?!? Would it have made any difference if it was labour? I didn’t realise there was no homelessness under labour Its a huge problem and I th8nk it’s going to get much worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Demitri_C said: Would it have made any difference if it was labour? I didn’t realise there was no homelessness under labour Dem, get your head out the sand if you care, Dude? Seriously. Quote Homelessness at record levels as numbers rise at 'appalling rate' since Tories came to power. Rough sleeping in England has hit record levels, doubling under the Tories, as a homelessness charity say numbers are rising at an “appalling rate”. The number of rough sleepers has risen by 133% since 2010, and by 51% in the last two years, according to official figures released this morning. Labour described the new figures as a “national scandal” and blamed cuts to housing benefit and reduced funding for homelessness charities for the eye-popping statistics. Mirror 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Demitri_C Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Xann said: Dem, get your head out the sand if you care, Dude? Seriously. Mirror My head isn’t in the sand but you think labour coming into power is the way to fix it ? Come on get real. Edited February 10, 2019 by Demitri_C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Demitri_C said: My head isn’t in the sand but you think labour coming into power is the way to fix it ? Come on get real. If you think there'd be the same acute problem with homelessness under Labour? You're deluded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xann Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 You wouldn't have got a tax cut though. What would you have chosen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 2 hours ago, AvfcRigo82 said: Seriously mate. If I was you. Get them to f*** straight away. We were roped in years ago by some twunt in the playground who'd just became a rep for them and shoving down everyones throats to sign up... before even reading or mulling over who they where and what they offered the missus at the time had already said yes and signed up. Clever cloggs! The company - All happy with you at first but god damn they are a nightmare. Me and Ex at time had a battle with these **** for well over a year that involved Pre Payment meters.. hiked debt added to the metres with interest that could never financial viably add up and be paid, baliff visits, the lot. A poisonous little company despite numerous attempts to contact them to come to a suitable arrangement and find out why they were acting like bastards. You're met with little jumped up **** on the other end of the phone that just made things worse snd docunent aload of lies or not even document your call at all. Stick with some of the 'named' companies. Npower etc. Trust me. This is what I suspected. A lot of the smaller energy companies are loss making, have no tangible assets and are based out of an office above a shop with about 10 staff. They simply aren't fit for purpose. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 11 hours ago, Demitri_C said: So visiting brum this weekend am staying close to New Street and I have to say since my last visit there are a hell of a lot more poverty than all my previous visits. A lot of people begging, homelessness also. Are things really that bad here for those that live here? Definitely a lot more homeless in Birmingham over the last few years. Even saw some in Lichfield on Saturday. Never seen that before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demitri_C Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 36 minutes ago, Xann said: If you think there'd be the same acute problem with homelessness under Labour? You're deluded. Do you know each person's circumstance? You don't for sure for example how do you know many of those didn't have gambling issues or alcoholism or another domestic issue that relates to where they are? We don't know so it's impossible to say. As for Labour come in the peoples party apparently. They are just as bad as the Conservatives. All shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Xann Posted February 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Demitri_C said: We don't know. That's what the Tories said, because it suits them. Look elsewhere. Quote Homelessness rise 'likely to have been driven by welfare reforms' BBC Quote Conclusion The experience of the United Kingdom, especially since 2010, underscores the conclusion that poverty is a political choice. Austerity could easily have spared the poor, if the political will had existed to do so. Resources were available to the Treasury at the last budget that could have transformed the situation of millions of people living in poverty, but the political choice was made to fund tax cuts for the wealthy instead. United Nations 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AvfcRigo82 Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Xann said: They're all over. There's an army of beggars at Vauxhall. F****** Vauxhall?!? You won't find any in Cornwall or Cambridge though. - Nor during the Royal Wedding. Cambridge now has a strict policy to homelessness and seeking help on the street in a doorway (or begging as we call it). I wonder why?!!.. Absolute dog shit. Edited February 10, 2019 by AvfcRigo82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HanoiVillan Posted February 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted February 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Demitri_C said: Would it have made any difference if it was labour? I didn’t realise there was no homelessness under labour Its a huge problem and I th8nk it’s going to get much worse I appreciate this isn't a 'bolitics' thread, so I'm not going to make it one, but it's simply factually true that there was much less homelessness under Labour. An increase in homelessness was an inevitable consequence of long periods of benefit sanctions and other toughened rules around benefits. It wasn't hard to predict. I shall say no more about in this thread. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chindie Posted February 10, 2019 VT Supporter Share Posted February 10, 2019 The number of homeless visible in Brum went up astronomically once the work began around the old library. Previously beneath the library was a bit of a de facto shelter for homeless people, and with that gone they've had to turn to more visible areas. And of course the last decade of government has sought to hammer the poorest, which ultimately leads to more homeless people and other destitute lives. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xela Posted February 10, 2019 Share Posted February 10, 2019 12 hours ago, Demitri_C said: So visiting brum this weekend am staying close to New Street and I have to say since my last visit there are a hell of a lot more poverty than all my previous visits. A lot of people begging, homelessness also. Are things really that bad here for those that live here? Ok, its an article from the Sun but they claim the stats are from the House of Commons https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7241237/half-of-britains-top-10-benefits-hotspots-are-in-birmingham-see-how-your-area-compares/ Quote The areas with the most jobless claimants... 1 Birmingham, Ladywood 11.9% 2 Birmingham, Hodge Hill 11.1% 3 Hartlepool 9.5% 4 Birmingham, Erdington 9.1% 5 Birmingham, Perry Barr 9.0% 6 Birmingham, Hall Green 8.8% 7 Newcastle upon Tyne Central 8.3% 8 Foyle 8.0% 9 Wolverhampton South East 7.8% 10 Bootle 7.6% 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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