MachoFantastico Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 £1.15 billion in debt Barcelona have been so poorly run for so long it's crazy. At this rate the club is lucky to still be playing, if they were a slightly smaller team I think they'd probably have gone under. That said watching them last night, it was rather refreshing seeing a Barca team not entirely reliant on Messi. Going to be a tough few years for them though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 9 minutes ago, MachoFantastico said: £1.15 billion in debt Barcelona have been so poorly run for so long it's crazy. At this rate the club is lucky to still be playing, if they were a slightly smaller team I think they'd probably have gone under. That said watching them last night, it was rather refreshing seeing a Barca team not entirely reliant on Messi. Going to be a tough few years for them though. Points deduction or relegated down the leagues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czarnikjak Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, Zatman said: Points deduction or relegated down the leagues Why? They haven't broken any rules. Their wagebill is being reduced accordingly to la liga salary cap rules. They haven't defaulted on any of the loans either, and unlikely they will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, Czarnikjak said: Why? They haven't broken any rules. Their wagebill is being reduced accordingly to la liga salary cap rules. They haven't defaulted on any of the loans either, and unlikely they will. But if they were a smaller team that would have happened 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 Anyone have any idea what sort of interest is payable on €1.35b of debt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czarnikjak Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Genie said: Anyone have any idea what sort of interest is payable on €1.35b of debt? Debt is dirt cheap nowadays...2-3% So probably around £30 million. Not significant in comparison to their £600m revenue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czarnikjak Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, Zatman said: But if they were a smaller team that would have happened Smaller team would never be given that much loans, their revenue would not be able to support it. There's nothing in the rules prohibiting you from taking on debt. As long as you not defaulting on repayments. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 6 hours ago, Genie said: Anyone have any idea what sort of interest is payable on €1.35b of debt? I dont know but the debt has gone up £170m since January. I assume that's unsustainable. Unlike madrid the spanish government aren't likely to bail them out, the yellow ribbons saw to that. In the meantime they are trying to swap coutinho for aubameyang which is bizarre and also they wanted to sign ex aston villa legend tammy abraham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomav84 Posted August 16, 2021 VT Supporter Share Posted August 16, 2021 havent watched barca in years but is there no possibility of AVFC exploiting this? must be someone we could get on the cheap? or at least a high quality loan and just pay his wages? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 28 minutes ago, tomav84 said: havent watched barca in years but is there no possibility of AVFC exploiting this? must be someone we could get on the cheap? or at least a high quality loan and just pay his wages? not a chance, every Barca player is probably on 50-90k a week more than our highest earner. None of the players would be bothered either 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 If a decent Barca player were to leave on loan it would be to another CL team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderPower_14 Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 FFP doing a great job protecting clubs from themselves then. They should have sold Messi when he could have attracted a transfer fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 7 hours ago, ThunderPower_14 said: FFP doing a great job protecting clubs from themselves then. They should have sold Messi when he could have attracted a transfer fee. Yes, last summer they could have got a quick and easy £50-£100m for him and saved the same again in wages… but instead they fought to keep him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 9 hours ago, Zatman said: not a chance, every Barca player is probably on 50-90k a week more than our highest earner. None of the players would be bothered either the best bet is to look at who they didnt register or who they kicked back in to the B team from that IMO there's only Moriba and someone here last week said he's chasing a £150k a week contract with them...he's 18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornso Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, Genie said: I'd like to take this opportunity to announce to Barcelona I am available to scout Australia for them... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 so in the last 5 years they've paid the scout 40m and in return they've signed mattheus fernandes, arthur, emerson, yerry mina and marlon for 67m been well worth it then 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 €8m a year scouting sounds dodgy as hell. Probably some honorary role in return for unearthing someone like Neymar years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Genie said: €8m a year scouting sounds dodgy as hell. Probably some honorary role in return for unearthing someone like Neymar years ago President before Bartomeu had big connections in Nike Brazil, was how they got Neymar and could previously convince Ronaldinho to join Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa89 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 (edited) On 17/08/2021 at 08:48, Genie said: €8m a year scouting sounds dodgy as hell. Probably some honorary role in return for unearthing someone like Neymar years ago The whole thing is corrupt. €40m to a social media company to bad mouth your best player? For a club that's supposed to be owned by the member's the lack of transparency in finance is extraordinary. Edited August 18, 2021 by villa89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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