Genie Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 49 minutes ago, sharkyvilla said: I'm not sure how much revenue keeping him will have earnt the club though. Bartomeu must be up there with Ridsdale and Wyness for idiotic running of a football club and goes back way longer than just not honouring the spirit of Messi's clause. I don't know whether the pay cut the players took in lockdown is just a deferred payment of the rest of the salary or they genuinely accepted earning less for that period. If it's the former then the salary payment in January could be even more humungous. I reckon at the point of Messi talking to City they could have said something along the lines of “the clause Messi things has expired hasn’t, however, if you want him now you can have him for a cut price £20m”. Dragging him back unhappy when they can’t afford his wages is the worst of all the possible outcomes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 8 minutes ago, Genie said: I reckon at the point of Messi talking to City they could have said something along the lines of “the clause Messi things has expired hasn’t, however, if you want him now you can have him for a cut price £20m”. Dragging him back unhappy when they can’t afford his wages is the worst of all the possible outcomes. It must have been a pride thing as well for Bartomeu, I mean who wants to be the man in charge when Messi left Barcelona, a team he really should spend his whole career at so just selling wasn't an option. Anyway Barcelona's form has picked up and they will probably end up in the top 4 whereas they would be nowhere without Messi, he is now Whoscored's highest player in Europe this season and been man of the match in half their games, qualifying for the Champions League would lessen the financial hole they are in at least a little bit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Messi is considering staying because of Pedri, he sees a good working relationship there going forward. He can talk to clubs now but has been no links in recent weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornso Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 In the last week or so Messi stated for the first time he wants to end his career in the MLS. Now there is talk of Barcelona buying a MLS franchise to be able to keep him and facilitate that move. Going by an article by Statista the cheapest franchise was valued at approx $190m US in 2019. How could they afford possibly afford that with their current debt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 9 minutes ago, Hornso said: In the last week or so Messi stated for the first time he wants to end his career in the MLS. Now there is talk of Barcelona buying a MLS franchise to be able to keep him and facilitate that move. Going by an article by Statista the cheapest franchise was valued at approx $190m US in 2019. How could they afford possibly afford that with their current debt? would be classic Barcelona not paying there players but buying a football club at the same time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzy Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 Real Madrid knocked out of the Copa Del Rey by a third division side who were down to 10 men. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 21, 2021 Share Posted January 21, 2021 18 hours ago, bobzy said: Real Madrid knocked out of the Copa Del Rey by a third division side who were down to 10 men. Is a really good as always article by Sid Lowe in The Guardian about Alcoyano and a brief history on them.Its quite sad actually as its one of the worst places in Spain now for Covid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 €1173 million in debt which about €200m is money owed to other clubs for player purchases. Surely Barcelona must be banned from the CL and European football and fined points in La Liga. Can see why they are desperate for the new European Super League. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 2 hours ago, sne said: €1173 million in debt which about €200m is money owed to other clubs for player purchases. Surely Barcelona must be banned from the CL and European football and fined points in La Liga. Can see why they are desperate for the new European Super League. That’s madness, especially when they (and Real Madrid) get such a disproportionate amount of the TV money in Spain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 3 hours ago, sne said: €1173 million in debt which about €200m is money owed to other clubs for player purchases. Surely Barcelona must be banned from the CL and European football and fined points in La Liga. Can see why they are desperate for the new European Super League. I knew it was bad. Bloody hell. Wyness and Xia posing as Catalans now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 the net spend graph is mental, spending hundreds of millions more than everyone else and for what? their squad is terrible, if they were blowing everyone away and pissing the league and getting the CL every season then you'd say yeah i can see what they've done here but they haven't they've spent an absolute fortune without a care in the world its like they sent a 12 year old kid to do the monthly shop, sat with cupboards full of imported pop tarts and lucky charms wondering why they're broke and yet have nothing to eat for dinner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Barca have of course released shirt number 4 to ease their money troubles, yours for £90 Not sure when shirts 5 6 and 7 are coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Suarez top scorer in la Liga with 12 to underline just how badly run Barcelona are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 Real Madrid losing at home to Levante and apparently having around €900m in debt . Part of it is tied down to the stadium rebuild and not as high % of it is loans that has to be repaid anytime soon or money owed to other clubs but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 (edited) Spanish paper El Mundo is running a story about Leo Messi's contract with Barcelona on their front page today. They are very much a pro-Madrid paper so take it for what it is. It's behind a paywall but I imagine it will be in every paper later today. If true then it's no wonder Barca are going bust. Quote The Argentinian Lionel Messi has a contract with FC Barcelona that amounts to €555,237,619 gross , to be paid in four seasons until its expiration next June 30. The figure is the sum of a fixed salary, image rights, a series of multi-million-euro bonuses unprecedented to date, daily allowances and a list of variables depending on various objectives. The net amount, after taxes (the highest personal income tax rate on income from his employment contract, and that of corporate income tax on income f https://www.elmundo.es/deportes/futbol/2021/01/31/60157838fdddff93618b4638.html Edited January 31, 2021 by sne 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 2 hours ago, sne said: Spanish paper El Mundo is running a story about Leo Messi's contract with Barcelona on their front page today. They are very much a pro-Madrid paper so take it for what it is. It's behind a paywall but I imagine it will be in every paper later today. If true then it's no wonder Barca are going bust. https://www.elmundo.es/deportes/futbol/2021/01/31/60157838fdddff93618b4638.html €138m a year €2.669m A WEEK WTAF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam-AVFC Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 3 hours ago, Genie said: €138m a year €2.669m A WEEK WTAF. There's another €200m on top in bonuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted January 31, 2021 Moderator Share Posted January 31, 2021 There's no accident in the things that are going on with Messi - put simply, Barcelona can't afford to keep him and can't afford to be seen as having to let him go for money. There's a big game being played about saving face and about Messi wanting to leave and about an effort being made to ensure the chairman's house doesn't get burned down when he goes. Barca need to sell a few. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 They could have offloaded him in the summer and saved themselves about €140m... but kept him knowing he’d be unhappy too. They could probably have gotten a transfer fee too once they’d gotten over the line that the contract was valid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulC Posted January 31, 2021 Share Posted January 31, 2021 23 hours ago, Genie said: Suarez top scorer in la Liga with 12 to underline just how badly run Barcelona are. 14 now, how they could do with him. Makes every team he goes to better! Top player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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