penguin Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 It’s against the rules for a player to tell his mates he’s moving clubs in case he puts a bet on, which in the scheme of things was for very minuscule money. But Sky can pump garbage transfer news out and control their own odds for it on their sportsbook with absolutely no issues? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 6, 2021 Share Posted January 6, 2021 Completely agree SSN being able to report sky bet odds as "news" should absolutely be banned I'd go one further - They shouldn't be allowed a gambling site, both because of the news channel and the influence that they can have over gamblers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Karim Benzema to stand trial for his part in the sex-tape blackmail affair with Mathieu Valbuena. He's already banned for life from the French national side but I guess it might effect his Madrid career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 (edited) old-ish video (sept 2019), but a very interesting overview of the mess Valencia in, discusses poor owners, Mendez (yes - the Wolves one), as well as other major issues like a non completed new stadium. What On Earth Is Going On At Valencia? also: How to Ruin a Historic Club: The Sad Story of Valencia, Peter Lim & Jorge Mendes Edited January 8, 2021 by MaVilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Sacked Nuno to bring in his mate Gary Neville and the club has gone to shit. Marcelino then seemed to be getting the club back together then sacked him for winning the cup. Absolute shitshow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Game between Atletico Madrid and Athletic Bilbao postponed due to a massive snowstorm in Madrid forcing the airport to close.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaVilla Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 i mean......arent they funded by the govt effectively??, so i assume they will just magic money form somewhere (like govts tend to do in a total legit way.........) Barcelona's crippling debt 'is approaching a BILLION EUROS with almost half of it to be paid within a year', leaving the club facing more radical cuts to avoid insolvency https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9138135/Barcelona-approaching-BILLION-EUROS-debt-leaving-club-fighting-avoid-insolvency.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Rev Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 On 06/01/2021 at 23:03, villa4europe said: Completely agree SSN being able to report sky bet odds as "news" should absolutely be banned I'd go one further - They shouldn't be allowed a gambling site, both because of the news channel and the influence that they can have over gamblers I agree with the sentiment here, certainly the stuff about Trippier telling his mates he's moving house being somehow immoral is bollocks; bookies created that market and they can easily remove it. It's completely different to betting on the outcome of a match. However, Sky don't own Skybet anymore, they sold the company a few years ago. They keep the branding and presumably there are close ties between Sky and the new owners but they are legally separate entities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted January 12, 2021 Moderator Share Posted January 12, 2021 18 minutes ago, MaVilla said: i mean......arent they funded by the govt effectively??, so i assume they will just magic money form somewhere (like govts tend to do in a total legit way.........) Barcelona's crippling debt 'is approaching a BILLION EUROS with almost half of it to be paid within a year', leaving the club facing more radical cuts to avoid insolvency https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9138135/Barcelona-approaching-BILLION-EUROS-debt-leaving-club-fighting-avoid-insolvency.html I think it's Real Madrid who have the occasional bit of governmental 'assistance', but both Spanish clubs are struggling financially and Barca are in a very bad way - they've had trouble paying players and have had to shelve plans to redevelop Camp Nou. Incidentally, the redevelopment of the Bernabeu has been amazing to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 They both do it differently My understanding is that barca get favourable rates and funding from the local catalan banks, when they got caught signing the under 16 South korean and other kids a few years back the investigation said that some of the local businesses had given the kids parents good jobs and visas that they weren't qualified for meaning that it was the parents that were moving and taking their kids with them Real Madrid sold their old training ground for more money than the land was actually worth (something the government always denied) and then the mega construction project on that land (the 4 towers if you've ever been) was part developed by their owners construction company, they love then also moved to a new part of the city which is part of another enormous construction project, they've pretty much redeveloped the entire post code around the training ground, infrastructure the lot, meaning that they're now in a decent part of town rather than the middle of nowhere, so they sold the old land high and bought the new land low 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutByEaster? Posted January 12, 2021 Moderator Share Posted January 12, 2021 I know Barca hadn't been able to pay their players their winter payment this month (Spanish players get paid twice a year) - I wonder when and how they'll make that payment? Will players have to leave in January so that others can be paid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 (edited) It’s crazy they dragged Messi back from a move. That would have saved them about £30m+ Edited January 12, 2021 by Genie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said: I know Barca hadn't been able to pay their players their winter payment this month (Spanish players get paid twice a year) - I wonder when and how they'll make that payment? Will players have to leave in January so that others can be paid? They dont really have many players that will bring in money. Dembele who is injury prone would probably be the best option or Coutinho who will probably drop about 60/70 million what they paid for him I know in some countries that players that havent been paid can walk out on a free transfer, I wonder if this could be the case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 i dunno, messi going on a free would still free up around £50m a year, if they sold the farm they'd be looking at £60m for Fati and de jong, maybe Dembele and coutinho too, £40m ter stegen, £30m for sergi roberto, £20m for pique and alba if someone is daft enough, £20m for pedri, trincao, dest, umtiti, lenglet, they'd generate north of £350m in player sales quite comfortably i would have thought then you take out the wages too which is around 5m a week according to football manager their biggest problem would be that if they did have a fire sale then the vultures are coming for the likes of fati not pique, alba and biscuits, their phasing out of the old guard has been horrific, both in terms of awful contracts for players that are past it and some garbage vanity signings 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genie Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Pique just signed a new deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Terrible timing to be forced to have a fire sale with so much money currently disappeared from football and no where near as many clubs willing to spend big. A lot of their most expensive players when it comes to salary are 30 or older with a couple years left on their contracts. Alba, Pjanic, Griezmann and Pique have deals to 2024 and Busquets and Coutinho to 2023. These guy will never get as high salaries as they are currently on unless they move to Qatar (or PSG) and they are not as good anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 19 minutes ago, villa4europe said: i dunno, messi going on a free would still free up around £50m a year, if they sold the farm they'd be looking at £60m for Fati and de jong, maybe Dembele and coutinho too, £40m ter stegen, £30m for sergi roberto, £20m for pique and alba if someone is daft enough, £20m for pedri, trincao, dest, umtiti, lenglet, they'd generate north of £350m in player sales quite comfortably i would have thought then you take out the wages too which is around 5m a week according to football manager their biggest problem would be that if they did have a fire sale then the vultures are coming for the likes of fati not pique, alba and biscuits, their phasing out of the old guard has been horrific, both in terms of awful contracts for players that are past it and some garbage vanity signings no way they get anything near that money plus they would sell the entire squad. Pique, Alba, Roberto, Busquets wont be bought. No big team needs a keeper hence why De Gea never left plus Ter Stegen signed a new deal. They needed money badly in the summer and raised less than 40 million from Semedo, Suarez, Rafinha, Rakitic and Vidal. They ended up paying 2 of them off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkyvilla Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Genie said: It’s crazy they dragged Messi back from a move. That would have saved them about £30m+ I'm not sure how much revenue keeping him will have earnt the club though. Bartomeu must be up there with Ridsdale and Wyness for idiotic running of a football club and goes back way longer than just not honouring the spirit of Messi's clause. I don't know whether the pay cut the players took in lockdown is just a deferred payment of the rest of the salary or they genuinely accepted earning less for that period. If it's the former then the salary payment in January could be even more humungous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villa4europe Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 34 minutes ago, sharkyvilla said: Bartomeu must be up there with Ridsdale and Wyness for idiotic running of a football club He came from their hockey club Madness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, villa4europe said: He came from their hockey club Madness Im sure its Basketball team but he is mates with Rosell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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