Pre match thread

[turvontour]

Do Leipzig actually go full strength for this?

If we had zero points in the champions league would we still be going all out in the remaining games? 

[limpid]

44 minutes ago, turvontour said:

Do Leipzig actually go full strength for this?

If we had zero points in the champions league would we still be going all out in the remaining games? 

If they win their last 3, they qualify (almost certainly).

[turvontour]

46 minutes ago, limpid said:

If they win their last 3, they qualify (almost certainly).

Yes that fine, I get the maths of it and they probably will still go all out for it. It's just incredibly unlikely to go from winning zero games to all your games, and could conceivably still go out when winning all of them. Real Madrid sit in that last playoff spot right now. 

I was looking at it more from our perspective. If we had lost all our games to Young Boys, Bayern, Bologna, Bruges and Juventus, would we be sending the likes of Martinez, Watkins etc to this match with league games a few days either side. Maybe we would, I don't know. 

[limpid]

40 minutes ago, turvontour said:

Yes that fine, I get the maths of it and they probably will still go all out for it. It's just incredibly unlikely to go from winning zero games to all your games, and could conceivably still go out when winning all of them. Real Madrid sit in that last playoff spot right now. 

I was looking at it more from our perspective. If we had lost all our games to Young Boys, Bayern, Bologna, Bruges and Juventus, would we be sending the likes of Martinez, Watkins etc to this match with league games a few days either side. Maybe we would, I don't know. 

On what basis do you assign that probability? We won our first three. Is it "incredibly unlikely" that we will lose the next three This is the fallacy of the maturity of chances (gamblers' fallacy).

I think we would still go all out while there was a chance of progressing.

[PaulC]

Can't think that this will be easy because Leipzig have lost their first 5. We have to be fully focused on this game and don't put another Brugge performance in. 

[Pongo Waring]

Our second game against a POT 1 side

[OutByEaster?]

Winning this one puts us right on the edge of getting rid of two fixtures in February - with the size of our squad that could be a really useful thing.

I think we have to go all out to try to get top eight - the prize of two less games is a big one.

[TDR V2]

3 hours ago, OutByEaster? said:

Winning this one puts us right on the edge of getting rid of two fixtures in February - with the size of our squad that could be a really useful thing.

I think we have to go all out to try to get top eight - the prize of two less games is a big one.

My wallet agrees

[fightoffyour]

Their first 5 fixtures have been a nightmare, so just seeing 5 losses would be quite simplistic. Their last 2 games are also their easiest.

It’s an interesting dynamic for us that this is already a must-win game for them (and I mean really, absolutely must win - even a draw and max 7 points would put them out), but they’ll be thinking if they can beat us then they can win the next two and have a good chance of qualifying (69%).

[wedge]

 

[Follyfoot]

5 hours ago, OutByEaster? said:

Winning this one puts us right on the edge of getting rid of two fixtures in February - with the size of our squad that could be a really useful thing.

I think we have to go all out to try to get top eight - the prize of two less games is a big one.

HECK SAYS NOT 

[Zatman]

If they lose today then Leipzig might have a new manager by Tuesday

[villa4europe]

17 hours ago, wedge said:

 

It's going to be 1-2° and absolutely pissing it down I think

Every danger I'll be in a boozer 

[wedge]

48 minutes ago, villa4europe said:

It's going to be 1-2° and absolutely pissing it down I think

Every danger I'll be in a boozer 

Forecast is dry for Tuesday in Leipzig as it stands 

[Villa87]

Think I’d go:

Emi 

Cash Konsa Torres Digne

McGinn Kamara Onana Rogers

Buendia Watkins

Case for Mings and Duran. 

[wedge]

I'd go:

 

                        Emi

      Cash Konsa Torres Digne

      Kamara McGinn/Onana (if fit enough)

       Rogers    Tielemans    Maatsen

                        Watkins

 

With Bailey missing wouldn't mind seeing Maatsen more advanced and he can get back and help Digne defensively. Now we haven't got Diaby we haven't really got a replacement for LB unfortunately.

Edited December 7, 2024 by wedge

[Sulberto21]

Think this will be our toughest game in the CL this season. 

[ferguson1]

Cash, Digne and Watkins not starting against Southampton surely means they’ll start on Tuesday. Wouldn’t be surprised if Philogene and Buendia also get starts here. Be good if Onana gets some minutes either from the off or in the second half:

                             Martinez

       Cash      Konsa       Pau      Digne

                   Kamara       Barkley

           McGinn                      Rogers

                          Tielemans  

                             Watkins

Likely to be far more physical against Forest next weekend, so would be looking for Mings, Onana and Duran possibly to start that game. 

Edited December 8, 2024 by ferguson1

[Pongo Waring]

10 hours ago, Zatman said:

If they lose today then Leipzig might have a new manager by Tuesday

They won!

[Pongo Waring]

26 minutes ago, Sulberto21 said:

Think this will be our toughest game in the CL this season. 

Yeah this is a must win for Leipzig
Might even make it better for us because the pressure will be on them