Xela Posted November 23 Posted November 23 Should people be allowed to chose their time of death? I think so, in certain circumstances, and following a period of reflection. If you have a life limiting condition or an illness that will get progressively worse, why shouldn't you be able to die in comfortable circumstances? Rather that than live on with mush for brains, or unable to walk or clean yourself.
tinker Posted November 23 VT Supporter Posted November 23 In the last hours of death, when the body stops but doesn't quite quit the scenes can be horrible, I have seen it and it ain't pretty, screaming , shouting all sort of stuff, I wouldn't want to go through that and the thought of putting my family through it when I die is disturbing to me. 1
Popular Post sidcow Posted November 23 VT Supporter Popular Post Posted November 23 (edited) Be interesting to see if VT is representative of people generally. I'm a yes for this. I can never get away that the expression which we use for animals in terminal condition is that it's the "humane thing to do to put them out of their misery" yet humans are given no such offer and made to suffer, not necessarily just from pain but also from a wasted body they no longer want to exist in. I'm not sure why people who oppose it are so certain that family members, 2 doctors and a high court judge will be so desperate to end a life flippantly or abuse the power in some way. That's a hell of a lot of collusion. Edited November 23 by sidcow 5
chrisp65 Posted November 23 Posted November 23 Something I’m genuinely flip flopping on as I hear compelling arguments either way.
Jonesy7211 Posted November 23 Posted November 23 I don't agree with it, but I voted yes as I think an individual should have the right to decide.
Rds1983 Posted November 23 VT Supporter Posted November 23 2 hours ago, Xela said: Should people be allowed to chose their time of death? I think so, in certain circumstances, and following a period of reflection. If you have a life limiting condition or an illness that will get progressively worse, why shouldn't you be able to die in comfortable circumstances? Rather that than live on with mush for brains, or unable to walk or clean yourself. Individuals life's, Individual's choice. Does have some wider issues in that it could affect other people (family/friend's) and there is a risk that a cure could be just around the corner. But if someone wants to die, then they'll find a way. It's better for them to do it in a controlled and supported fashion.
limpid Posted November 23 Administrator Posted November 23 2 hours ago, Xela said: Should people be allowed to chose their time of death? I think so, in certain circumstances, and following a period of reflection. If you have a life limiting condition or an illness that will get progressively worse, why shouldn't you be able to die in comfortable circumstances? Rather that than live on with mush for brains, or unable to walk or clean yourself. It's phrased weirdly. Anyone should be able to choose when they die. What does "assisted" have to do with it?
Danwichmann Posted November 23 Posted November 23 I'm broadly in favour, but saw an ad in the underground for some assisted dying advocacy group or something and for some reason that didn't seem right, like it was being over simplified and encouraging people to choose a side rather than give it the balanced, nuanced consideration it deserves.
TB Posted November 23 Posted November 23 (edited) 19 minutes ago, limpid said: It's phrased weirdly. Anyone should be able to choose when they die. What does "assisted" have to do with it? Not wishing to answer for the OP, but "assisted dying" require someone to help you out of your misery when you can't opt out of this life on your own for whatever reason? And if it isn't legal to help someone end their life, there will be legal repercussions for the "helper": manslaughter, murder - I don't know the legal terms, especially not in the UK. Edited November 23 by TB 1
limpid Posted November 23 Administrator Posted November 23 4 minutes ago, Danwichmann said: I'm broadly in favour, but saw an ad in the underground for some assisted dying advocacy group or something and for some reason that didn't seem right, like it was being over simplified and encouraging people to choose a side rather than give it the balanced, nuanced consideration it deserves. If I decide I want to die tomorrow, what's it got to do with anyone else? The argument seems to be around fringe cases where it might be difficult to ascertain whether someone has come to their decision independently. I think that merits conversation, but for the vast majority of people I feel that people should have the right to die. And if they are not physically able, then they should be able to have others assist, but that is not the question the OP asked. 2
Xela Posted November 23 Author Posted November 23 24 minutes ago, limpid said: It's phrased weirdly. Anyone should be able to choose when they die. What does "assisted" have to do with it? I'd assume assisted is that you need the Doctors etc to assist you with the procedure?
limpid Posted November 23 Administrator Posted November 23 1 minute ago, Xela said: I'd assume assisted is that you need the Doctors etc to assist you with the procedure? You should read the first line of your OP.
TB Posted November 23 Posted November 23 4 minutes ago, limpid said: If I decide I want to die tomorrow, what's it got to do with anyone else? That's a tough one. But you'll leave others behind, greaving.
limpid Posted November 23 Administrator Posted November 23 1 minute ago, TB said: That's a tough one. But you'll leave others behind, greaving. That's no-one else's business but mine. If I voted for Trump tomorrow, most of those people wouldn't talk to me again. 1
PaulC Posted November 23 Posted November 23 I think everybody shouid have the choice to die the way they wish to but I can see the issues with it to like people doing it not to be a burden on loved ones.
TB Posted November 23 Posted November 23 1 minute ago, limpid said: That's no-one else's business but mine. If I voted for Trump tomorrow, most of those people wouldn't talk to me again. For me, if you have family and friends, that's really cold. Leaving them all behind... I think there's a mismatch between the OP topic "Assisted Dying - Yay or Nay?" and the poll "Should people have the right to die?" I'll support assisted dying if someone makes the desicion while being of sound mind, have a terminal illness and the assistant(s) won't be prosecuted afterwards. 1
desensitized43 Posted November 23 Posted November 23 Yes, but there needs to be some serious provisions in place to make sure this isn’t abused. The last think anyone wants is someone making this decision because they’ve been coerced, feels like a burden or for financial reasons. 4
limpid Posted November 23 Administrator Posted November 23 9 minutes ago, TB said: For me, if you have family and friends, that's really cold. Leaving them all behind... See, I talk to my family and friends. If I did decide, it wouldn't be a surprise to them. 10 minutes ago, TB said: I think there's a mismatch between the OP topic "Assisted Dying - Yay or Nay?" and the poll "Should people have the right to die?" That;s why I said "It's phrased weirdly." 1
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