alreadyexists Posted September 18 VT Supporter Share Posted September 18 (edited) An interesting point made by the Football Rankings twitter (x) guy, likely to only be 10 points needed to get to the knockout phase. I gather it’s seeded then so the higher up you finish the lower ranking team you play on the knock out round? Let’s go for 16 points though obviously! Edited September 18 by alreadyexists Updated title Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted September 18 Administrator Share Posted September 18 I'll move this from forum to forum through the group stages. I'm not allowing it in the VillaTalk forum as the last one descended into discussions about individual games and tickets. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Dogg Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 It's not a group stage is it? It's a league, a Champions League if you will. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted September 18 Author VT Supporter Share Posted September 18 4 hours ago, limpid said: I'll move this from forum to forum through the group stages. I'm not allowing it in the VillaTalk forum as the last one descended into discussions about individual games and tickets. Thanks Limpid, apologies for that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted September 18 Author VT Supporter Share Posted September 18 34 minutes ago, Mr_Dogg said: It's not a group stage is it? It's a league, a Champions League if you will. I checked before I posted, but I think it’s officially termed ‘the group stage’ even thought it’s one big league!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limpid Posted September 18 Administrator Share Posted September 18 1 hour ago, Mr_Dogg said: It's not a group stage is it? It's a league, a Champions League if you will. Just look at the thread title now. What have you done? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo985 Posted September 18 VT Supporter Share Posted September 18 5 hours ago, alreadyexists said: An interesting point made by the Football Rankings twitter (x) guy, likely to only be 10 points needed to get to the knockout phase. I gather it’s seeded then so the higher up you finish the lower ranking team you play on the knock out round? Let’s go for 16 points though obviously! I'd be very surprised if it was as high as 10. I honestly think 8 will be enough. 10 will probably be like the fabled 40 point mark in the premier league. It's what everyone aims for but is rarely what is actually needed. Obviously it's very hard to tell at this stage 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viivvaa66 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 2 hours ago, alreadyexists said: I checked before I posted, but I think it’s officially termed ‘the group stage’ even thought it’s one big league!? Official name is Champions League League Phase 2024/25 League Phase 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted September 18 Author VT Supporter Share Posted September 18 (edited) 2 minutes ago, viivvaa66 said: Official name is Champions League League Phase 2024/25 League Phase Thanks, I read a different article but I’m obviously wrong! Edited September 18 by alreadyexists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viivvaa66 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 If the Premier League is used to estimate points needed for top 8 and top 24 in the CL League Phase, I get the following results: Top 24 would be about the same as being 14th in the Premier League, and historically you need 1.1/1.2 points per match to get it. With 8 matches that’s about 9-10 points. Top 8 would be somewhere between 4th and 5th in Premier League, historically that’s somewhere between 1.75 to 2.0 points per match, with 8 matches that is between 14-16 points. Two more wins and we most likely get into the knockout phase, and if we could win an additional two games we are in contention for top 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted September 18 VT Supporter Share Posted September 18 9 points will be enough most of the time, some of the time 8 is enough. 15 is enough most of the time for top 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pongo Waring Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 Lets aim for top 8!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackbauer24 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 According to the 'Super Computer', we're due to finish 7th!! Not that I give much weight to that kind of information! Working on a more realistic 10-15pts for Playoffs and 16pts+ for automatic qualification; We need three wins and a draw minimum; Wins vs Young Boys ️ Bologna (H) and Celtic (H) and draw against Brugge (A) means qualification. To qualify automatically, we probably need to turn Brugge into a victory, with further wins against Monaco (A) and one draw from the trickier games vs Bayern (H), Juventus (H) or RB Leipzig (A). Think our greatest chance is Juventus considering home advantage. Enjoy the ride... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobsons Choice Posted September 19 VT Supporter Share Posted September 19 I keep looking at results from other teams we've got to play (like Celtic) and for a second start thinking 'damn, we could have done with them drawing there', before coming to my senses and remembering that it's now a 36 team league, and it matters only tangentially how our opponents have done elsewhere. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAMARV Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 On that tangent, Bayern, Celtic amd Juve have won, Bologna drew, Brugge and obviously Young Boys lost. Monaco (v Barca) and Leipzig (v A.Madrid) tonight. Bayern at home 2 weeks yesterday up next. Then Bologna at home and Brugge away end of October/start of Nov. And then we'll already be half way through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fightoffyour Posted September 19 VT Supporter Share Posted September 19 Have to admit that I thought the League Phase was a stupid idea when it was first revealed but I already think it's a much better format. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDR V2 Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 1 minute ago, fightoffyour said: Have to admit that I thought the League Phase was a stupid idea when it was first revealed but I already think it's a much better format. It's deffo better for clubs like us, we have more chance of progressing, and should be fewer pointless games 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Made In Aston Posted September 19 Share Posted September 19 So Celtic record their largest ever champions league win, Bayern do the same and Monaco beat Barcelona at home. Good job we don't have to play those 3! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alreadyexists Posted September 20 Author VT Supporter Share Posted September 20 Early days but this is lovely to see! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ferguson1 Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 I really like the new format but I suppose it’s hard to make any real judgement on it’s success until after the final has been played. Much prefer it than seeing loads of different group tables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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