drat01 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Gideon's UK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brumerican Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Just found a fiver in my coat pocket . The green shoots of recovery eh ? !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Cameron often accuses Balls of things he is far more guilty of in terms of behavious and manners, If he does then he is not on his own is he Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Gideon's UK Only because Gordon left the light on all night and now we can't afford the electricity bill! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Surely Gordon already sold the tunnel and at a rock bottom price as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyh29 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Balls - well he is the sort of person who belittles others and I bet on the surface seems this cheeky chappy who tries to be a bit of a bulldog when it comes to tackling issues, but really he is just a massive twunt who probably even his own party sit away from in the HC canteen or when there is a round they "thought he was in the loo". Considering how Cameron and his Flashman tactics come out when he is rattled, Balls is doing nothing more than winding up Cameron and his Bullingdon "chums". If he is hated for that, then he is loved by a lot more for it. Cameron often accuses Balls of things he is far more guilty of in terms of behavious and manners, Cameron and his patronising ways especially towards women cannot stand it when someone challenges him, and Balls does that anddoes it wellI'd doubt if even balls own mother loves him I find it most enjoyable how Cameron swats away the labour front bench with ease each week I notice there was no comment from the red Tory party about the gesture made to Cameron by one of its shemale MP's this week... Not the "H" word again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 I find it most enjoyable how Cameron swats away the labour front bench with ease each week Are you watching some kind of House of Commons rounders tournament because you surely aren't talking about PMQs, are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 I find it most enjoyable how Cameron swats away the labour front bench with ease each week Are you watching some kind of House of Commons rounders tournament because you surely aren't talking about PMQs, are you? It isn't hard to swat away Milliband though is it? That man, decent a chap as he may be, is a truly awful leader. I understand the whole style over substance argument, but you at least need a leader who is vaguely competent at public speaking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowychap Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 It isn't hard to swat away Milliband though is it? Maybe it isn't. The idea that Cameron is doing that kind of thing with ease has to be partisan cobblers. PMQs has continued along the race to the bottom that began however long ago (probably Blair but it may have been before). Cameron and Miliband ably (or unably as is your preference) continue the work of the previous duo of Gordo and Cameron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drat01 Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Snowy is exactly right and it shows the Tory party and its supporters are more concerned with some sort of childish charade from Cameron, who often fails and then resorts to bully boy Flashman when he is found out. Tony must be watching a different channel though, maybe the Tory south have a different one? Cameron is now resorting to vindictive attacks and never answering questions at a time when a real PM would try and present some sort of leadership rather than trying to deflect anything, blame anyone and everyone but him and the Bullingdon boys and ensure that his supporters are well looked after. It was funny recently when it has been shown the impact that Cameron's policies has had on women he and the whips insisted that a lot of the Tory women MP's are convenienly sitting in the TV camera shot now. Also the ridiculous pre arranged fawning questions from his back benchers. Milliband and the rest of the Labour MP's - I would have said opposition but we all know that the Lib Dems are too afraid to raise any concerns - often expose Cameron and Gideon for what they are, which in turn results in Flashman bully boy Cameron. I actually laughed when the story broke about how the EU leaders basically told him to **** off recently when he tried the same tactics with them. He and the Tory party are totally exposed now for what they have always stood for. The attacks on public sector, privatisation of the NHS, reductions in front line services, rising inflation, rising unemployment, all we need now is a Falklands war and the Thatcher dark years are back. Maybe that's why St Helena is getting 200 million airport ...... (funded by the UK of course) I wonder why Ashcroft lobbyed so much to get through? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Risso Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 It isn't hard to swat away Milliband though is it? Maybe it isn't. The idea that Cameron is doing that kind of thing with ease has to be partisan cobblers. PMQs has continued along the race to the bottom that began however long ago (probably Blair but it may have been before). Cameron and Miliband ably (or unably as is your preference) continue the work of the previous duo of Gordo and Cameron. True enough. It's Labour with the problem though. Even with the economy as it is, I can't imagine the population as a whole voting for Milliband. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterms Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Iceland agreed to the IMF bailout and have stuck to the terms agreed, much like the Greek government were trying to do. The referendum in Iceland you are talking about was about whether the government should honour the 'Icesave' debts run up by a private bank, not debts run up by the government itself like the problem the Greek government finds itself in. I believe the referendum was about a larger figure than the IMF loan. Sensible to reject it. Maybe not so sensible to accept the IMF thing - they seem to have emerged, but at some cost. Iceland and Ireland are a pretty good comparison. One had a referendum and let its crazy banking sector go bust, the other nationalized the debt. But comparing the situation in Greece with Iceland is comparing apples with oranges. No country should socialise its private banks' gambling debts. I imagine everyone can agree on that. Except the people making the decisions, it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Zen Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 True enough. It's Labour with the problem though. Even with the economy as it is, I can't imagine the population as a whole voting for Milliband. Absolutely this. Ed with his wonkish image and demeanour just isn't a leader and at the core he is ideologically too close to the unelectable Labour party of the 80s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetrees Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 True enough. It's Labour with the problem though. Even with the economy as it is, I can't imagine the population as a whole voting for Milliband. Absolutely this. Ed with his wonkish image and demeanour just isn't a leader and at the core he is ideologically too close to the unelectable Labour party of the 80s. Yep, but who will replace him? It can't be his brother. Balls is an idiot, and looks far too much like a young Adolf Hitler. Is it time (or possible?) for Labour to have a non-MP as party leader? At least then, if they returned to government, we would have transparency as to who is actually running the country. PM for PM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Cameron is now resorting to vindictive attacks and never answering questions If he is then he is not on his own is he. I have seen more and more recently from the Labour (or should that be socialist?) party and its supporters constantly trying to reference words and phrases from 30 years ago (privatisation is one of those at every opportunity). No doubt some dictat issued from on high which goes something like this "we cant win an argument now but we did well in convincing the public that the Conservatives were all nasty in the 80s (even though that isnt true) so lets keep referencing that we are back in the 80s". Obvious tactic and shows no idea of how to deal with the issues of today. I am also seeing comments from the Labour Party and its supporters trying to bring a class war into the discussion. Great tactics there lets fight a battle of yesteryear and not one of today. Obviously because they are culpable for some of the issues facing us today and have no idea how to resolve them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Hannan - I do enjoy him, when it comes to speaking no one is better, I just wish he wasn't stuck in Brussells where his influence is probably null. Not sure why he has never gone into UK politics. I read somewhere it was to keep him at arms reach from his euro sceptic views, however much of what he has said seems to be coming to fruition. He is fairly liberal in his thinking, but an ideal which can't really happen tbh. and with that goes any sort of credibility. The bloke is an odious twunt of the very highest order Fair enough, you don't like him. That doesn't alter the fact that every warning he has given about the inability of the Euro to function as constituted is now being proven correct. If anyone has 'credibility' then logic dictates it is those whose arguments have been demonstrably proven? Monetary union without fiscal and political union does not and cannot work and the evidence that Hannan's argument was correct is now staring everyone in the face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAFC2000 Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 True enough. It's Labour with the problem though. Even with the economy as it is, I can't imagine the population as a whole voting for Milliband. Absolutely this. Ed with his wonkish image and demeanour just isn't a leader and at the core he is ideologically too close to the unelectable Labour party of the 80s. Yep, but who will replace him? It can't be his brother. Balls is an idiot, and looks far too much like a young Adolf Hitler. Is it time (or possible?) for Labour to have a non-MP as party leader? At least then, if they returned to government, we would have transparency as to who is actually running the country. PM for PM? Balls is an Ideot - based on what...? What does that make Gideon...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VILLAFC2000 Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Cameron is now resorting to vindictive attacks and never answering questions If he is then he is not on his own is he. I have seen more and more recently from the Labour (or should that be socialist?) And we would not want Socialism would We...? Its not as if the country is completely owned by the the global co operative industry...? Its not as if 99% of the country have been SCREWED left right and center by the banks and cooperates..? Cuts to the elderly, young, vulnerable families, privatization of the NHS, Pension schemes increase, university fees increase. Yet the bankers are getting million of ££££ in bonuses for loosing thousands of people like savings.Yes we truly do live in a democracy...! Could you answer me a few questions What do you think about the top earners earning a 49 % pay increase this year-while there is record unemployment levels and inflation increases. How many Nurses, teachers, Doctors could Carlos Tevezs wages buy in a year...? Do you think its fair that 70% of the Worlds wealth is owned by 1% of people....? Thank goodness this country is doing well and there is fairness and equality for all.....!!!!???? UP YOUR BUM YOU TORY SCUM...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awol Posted November 5, 2011 Share Posted November 5, 2011 Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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