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Just now, Keyblade said:

That's what Newcastle fans were saying about their own this time last year. Now Longstaff, Murphy, Scharr, Joelinton, Almiron etc who looked like Championship players last year are taking the piss with us. They are simply well coached 

So you envision good coaching making Ollie able to control a ball and pass to a team mate efficiently?

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1 minute ago, est1874 said:

Still defending Mings ffs.

Saying he's one of our better players today is a bit meaningless don't you think? Truly hope the new manager uses a better barometer with which to judge our players than "Well at least he's not as shit at what he does as Ollie Watkins, let's not look to improve that position then."

Lol that’s rich coming from you but it’s good to see you still lack any objectivity.
 

Mings has had some bad moments but he’s still our best defender. Doesn’t mean he won’t get upgraded at some point but continually pointing at him saying he’s shit, like you do, and needs to go really makes no sense at all.

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Just now, sidcow said:

Some proper ned wetters on here. 

We've been schooled by a team who are in the top 4 and absolutely flying. 

Many teams are going to get battered here the form they are in

What's a ned wetter for those of us who don't keep an A-Z of slurs?

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1 minute ago, Demitri_C said:

Thats the problem OBE fragile and weak. We seen this too many times. Its not hood enough. We need to rid of the softies and get some winners in

I'm sure Newcastle were saying the same when they were taken over - they've not changed all the players, they've changed the mentality by being organised.

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1 minute ago, GingerCollins29 said:

Explain Coutinho's performance then

Ive just seen an example of PC getting the ball, Luiz, Ramsey, and McGinn standing, standing behind him, no movement, Ings standing next to the CH , hiding, so he doesn't get the ball, and Watkins running towards the touchline. What is he supposed to do?

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3 minutes ago, OutByEaster? said:

I don't think we need a massive clearcut, there are areas we can be better, most notably up top, but the difference between the two sides today isn't all about the quality of the players - it's about the way Newcastle are organised, confident and strong, they've beaten us as much with their mentality as anything else. It'll be interesting to see how long they can keep this up - with Brighton also looking good, there good be trouble ahead for the supersix and in the long term that might be good for both us and Newcastle.

 

What complete and utter nonsense. Clearly Villa need a complete rebuild starting with the midfield!

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2 minutes ago, bielesibub said:

so what's the problem this week? the players don't want to play for Danks or the incoming Emery? Just hope Emery is as good at the fine details as his surname suggests!

Coaching, we’ve seen the players have it in them so we have to hope Emery getting the coaching right including mentality.  Brentford game just gave us a glimpse, this showed the other side.  Danks was always not going to make a bigger difference apart from taking the shackles off.  Emery needs to build with these guys, obviously transfer a few out but they need to be coached properly.  It’s the same as Newcastle last season and now look at them with a decent coach.

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Just now, allani said:

I think we'll struggle until the January transfer window.  We are still very unbalanced and lacking in leadership on the pitch.  I think we will be better after the WC (and it is good that Emery will get time with a lot of the squad to work on things during that time) but we need to bring in a couple of good players to give him a chance.  I think once we have the balance sorted then we will see a few of our other players raise their game because they will have proper support around them.

yes it is absolutely essential that the ownership back the manager in january, as howe did newcastle in jan 2022. Signing some new players has the effect of raising the game of the existing players, and generally brings new ideas and ways of thinking into training and implementing tactics. I feel we didnt do enough in the summer and commented as much later on in the transfer thread. After what was a really positive start to the window we seemed to lose momentum whilst other teams kept making signings.

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It's definitely a mentality thing. Before that goal we were competitive, indeed had the better chances. But since we've looked shot.

The first thing Unai needs to address is our mental side. Opposition scores and we fall to pieces.

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2 minutes ago, sidcow said:

Some proper bed wetters on here. 

We've been schooled by a team who are in the top 4 and absolutely flying. 

Many teams are going to get battered here the form they are in

They were outstanding.

However, i'm most annoyed at the likes of Ollie.

If he could do the basics right we potentially have a 2 o 3 goal lead first half.

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2 minutes ago, striker said:

What complete and utter nonsense. Clearly Villa need a complete rebuild starting with the midfield!

Rubbish….Kamara and Luiz will be the centre piece of our midfield going forwards

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Just now, OutByEaster? said:

I'm sure Newcastle were saying the same when they were taken over - they've not changed all the players, they've changed the mentality by being organised.

Again nonsense. Newcastle brought a lot of quality in.

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Just now, striker said:

What complete and utter nonsense. Clearly Villa need a complete rebuild starting with the midfield!

Newcastle had Willock and Longstaff as two of their three today - quality of the players is not the cause of today's result.

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1 minute ago, JAMAICAN-VILLAN said:

So you envision good coaching making Ollie able to control a ball and pass to a team mate efficiently?

Yes, he wasn't this bad 2 years ago.

Did you see Joelinton and Almiron last year? They legit looked like the worst PL footballers of all time. Couldn't trap a bag of cement 

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