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Unai has never really been prolific in the domestic cups (PSG aside).  He's never won any in Spain, getting to the final only once with Sevilla and losing to Barca.

His focus seems to be doing well in the league and winning in Europe.

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21 hours ago, Avfc96 said:

But we're not an 'elite' football club yet. We're not Madrid, Bayern, City etc who can afford to rest players and put out weakened sides and not mind going out of the domestic cups knowing that at the end of the season they'll be competing for their respective leagues and the latter stages of the Champions League.

 

I agree, we aren't one yet, but by continuing to behave like one and putting all the right structures in place, we will become one. I'm just making sure to enjoy it every step of the way.

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12 minutes ago, Daveburnside said:

Don't be ridiculous

Nice indepth response.

We haven't won a trophy for 28 years, the longest time in our history (I think).

IMO not having experience on the bench was a mistake. If we go on a bad run (next 3 away games, Spurs, Poll and Chelsea), the decision will look flawed. 

I'm not suggesting Emery is less than great, but we are not Established top 4, and shouldn't give up on silverware so easily. 

 

 

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On 30/10/2024 at 21:49, markavfc40 said:

Possibly the first time I have ever thought this but disappointed in Emery tonight. The league cup is our best chance of a trophy but whilst the starting line up tonight was okay he should have put a handful of first teamers on the bench. Had he done so, and used 3 or 4 of them, then I think we are now two games away from a final. The bench, and the substitutions, suggested he wasn't too fussed about this competition though and, whilst I get the need to balance this competition with others, it is very disappointing. 

I think it's fair to say, you won't always agree with him and at the same time, applaud him for the great jobs he is doing overall.

I feel, more than just this game, he didn't want the physical and mental distraction of the progressive games where we would have been challenged to arduous games.

We all often say, we are WIP and games like that defeat remind us even more.....for me, no more so, than a failure to keep clean sheets, ( champions league exception , so far) and grind out results, with peripheral players...I didn't see any grinders.

We are not ready, to take on a succession of arduous games, in 4 competitions, as much as it hurts to sy that.

When we went deep in to these domestic cup games, in the past, it was with the first team.....but the physicality and the amount of games, wasn't so challenging back then, so they didn't need resting or protecting from injury, like they do now.

I suspect, Unai has to pre- evaluate the risk and reward of his actions, and that's the tricky part of decision making.

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On 31/10/2024 at 14:15, catanzaro said:

I thought that this is what all elite football clubs do… don’t they all rotate players throughout the season, and try and manage the schedules and prioritise?

This is what we’re doing… we’re behaving like an elite football club… he’s working to a strategy… as the years go by, Unai will build the squad to his exacting standards and then we will start regularly winning trophies.

I’ve always thought with Emery we’re more likely to win the Champions League before the Milk cup, purely based on the fact he’ll rotate the squad and use one of the cups to bring back injured players or nurture young talent.

Paradoxically, you could be right.

The distance we travel in the champions league, will far outweigh in reputation value, the status we get from the Carabao cup....The likely players we go after in recruitment, will soon remind us of that.

I think the main disappointment for many is, we perhaps all thought the team he put out was good enough, to have done better.

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1 hour ago, Stratvillan said:

Love him and how he has transformed the club, but still think he made a mistake on Wednesday.  Will this be his CSKA Moscow moment?

If we go on a good run it was a great decision, if we go on a poor run it was a mistake. 

 

I don't think your deduction can be concluded like that.

Good results are simple, it's about every player doing things right, consistently.

Individual errors, can threaten the validity of many management decisions......and just for the sake of accuracy, individual errors have to be factored in to the description of " good performances" ...it's a team game and individuals contribute to it, that means their performances are relevant to the outcome.

just one element, concentration.....that too is part of good performances, leading to most likely good results.

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On 31/10/2024 at 14:15, catanzaro said:

I thought that this is what all elite football clubs do… don’t they all rotate players throughout the season, and try and manage the schedules and prioritise?

This is what we’re doing… we’re behaving like an elite football club… he’s working to a strategy… as the years go by, Unai will build the squad to his exacting standards and then we will start regularly winning trophies.

I’ve always thought with Emery we’re more likely to win the Champions League before the Milk cup, purely based on the fact he’ll rotate the squad and use one of the cups to bring back injured players or nurture young talent.

We are on the way, not just yet.

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1 hour ago, Stratvillan said:

Love him and how he has transformed the club, but still think he made a mistake on Wednesday.  Will this be his CSKA Moscow moment?

If we go on a good run it was a great decision, if we go on a poor run it was a mistake. 

 

Nah I think he would rather have lost than have our better players fatigued when it really matters. 
 

I back his call regardless of how things turn out.

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Because of PSR, the club's focus has to be on the Champions League over the domestic cups if you want to improve the squad enough to compete in both.  That is the area where you can have the biggest impact on club revenue.  Emery is well aware of this and has managed accordingly.

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1 hour ago, Stratvillan said:

Nice indepth response.

We haven't won a trophy for 28 years, the longest time in our history (I think).

IMO not having experience on the bench was a mistake. If we go on a bad run (next 3 away games, Spurs, Poll and Chelsea), the decision will look flawed. 

I'm not suggesting Emery is less than great, but we are not Established top 4, and shouldn't give up on silverware so easily. 

 

 

this is why we've given up on this piece of silverware. emery is trying to make us established top 4.

and we still have 3 chances of silverware. why are people talking like the carabao cup is our only chance?

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51 minutes ago, colhint said:

Earlier today, and I can't find it now, in the team news and press conference section, they ran a thing if you could run your club for a day what would you do.

A VIlla fan wrote I'd sack myself and appoint Unai Emery.

/end thread.

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