a m ole Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Peter Griffin said: I don't know whether the guy is guilty or not, which I assume is the same for most people on here but the concept of innocent until proven guilty is clearly lost on many What do you think the word alleged means? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Peter Griffin said: I don't know whether the guy is guilty or not, which I assume is the same for most people on here but the concept of innocent until proven guilty is clearly lost on many Innocent until proven guilty, but accusers have very little to gain given how seldom (alleged) rape cases are actually prosecuted. Not saying there are never cases of false accusation where rape is concerned, but you can consider those a lot rarer than with certain other crimes. So the principle may be the same but the probability factor involved is somewhat different. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zatman Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 11 minutes ago, est1874 said: Martin Tyler is a **** word removed aswell. Sounds like he had money on Palace the way he's gurning here. What's wrong with him? Must really hate Arsenal. He has always been a piece of shit commentator, got away with it for long because Gray and Keys were bigger clearings in the woods He just tries for soundbites 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMitch Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 Arsenal look a completely different side now in terms of style... You can really see what Arteta has done on the pitch. Took a long time to get to this point, but they're going to be fun to watch this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 1 minute ago, a m ole said: What do you think the word alleged means? I know exactly what the word means, hence my comment. Just in case you don't know what it means it is to assert something without proof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Peter Griffin said: I know exactly what the word means, hence my comment. Just in case you don't know what it means it is to assert something without proof I’m innocent of what you’re asserting, your honor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sne Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 Innocent until proven poor 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 Just now, est1874 said: Innocent until proven guilty, but accusers have very little to gain given how seldom (alleged) rape cases are actually prosecuted. Not saying there are never cases of false accusation where rape is concerned, but you can consider those a lot rarer than with certain other crimes. So the principle may be the same but the probability factor involved is somewhat different. Accusers have a lot more to gain when the alleged perpetrator is a PL footballer earning over 10m a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 Just now, sne said: Innocent until proven poor Innocent before legislation 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 Just now, Peter Griffin said: Accusers have a lot more to gain when the alleged perpetrator is a PL footballer earning over 10m a year. Jesus Christ. I suppose it pains you to the core that Sigurdsson, Mendy and Greenwood are currently suspended? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewiek2 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 Has it been officially known that it's Partey or is it all coming from Twitter rumours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
est1874 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 Just now, Peter Griffin said: Accusers have a lot more to gain when the alleged perpetrator is a PL footballer earning over 10m a year. I think we should end this conversation here, as you're making it fairly clear where you stand on such matters, and I can only vehemently disagree with your perspective. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewiek2 Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 Palace aren't out of this yet. You'd think Viera will have them at it second half. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 1 minute ago, penguin said: Jesus Christ. I suppose it pains you to the core that Sigurdsson, Mendy and Greenwood are currently suspended? Not in the slightest. I am just not condemning a person as guilty without evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StefanAVFC Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 Words can’t describe how much I detest this ‘letting things go’ style of reffing just call it a foul if it’s a foul ffs games just end up getting out of control 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 (edited) cba Edited August 5, 2022 by a m ole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciggiesnbeer Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 In rage inducing news over here in the USA Peacock has decided not to stream this live on their service have to wait till 6am tomorrow to watch the replay. So why am I paying you Peacock? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 1 minute ago, est1874 said: I think we should end this conversation here, as you're making it fairly clear where you stand on such matters, and I can only vehemently disagree with your perspective. Yeah, I stand on the innocent until proven guilty side. If u want to judge people on what you read on social media then that is your call. I use a little more critical thinking to that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django_Zooms Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 Please oh please can they keep up this standard of refereeing all season? No fouls awarded for dives and even a yellow for Xhaka simulating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a m ole Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Peter Griffin said: Yeah, I stand on the innocent until proven guilty side. If u want to judge people on what you read on social media then that is your call. I use a little more critical thinking to that Critical thinking? Like nudge nudge wink wink how much does he earn? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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