Corleone Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 People want to talk about, oh its dragged on, just let him go, this is about principle, so "NO" we should not sell for anything less than $18m, unless Barry hands in a transfer request. is that US$ Or AUS$? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thetrees Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 I only want the Villa to accept what they have indicated to Liverpool in the first place. MON and Mr Lerner have held their ground so if 16m and Finnan fits with what they are asking then fine. If not, then such a bid should be rejected. But Liverpool can only make a 'final offer' when they have the money to see it through, and it appears that at the moment they don't. The likelihood of GB still being on the Villa's books come September 1st is still there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maradona10 Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 I think a key factor will be the actual payment, Liverpool cannot offer this pay a 5% now and the rest over a period of 10years. I exaggerated that but their method of payment is also important for this deal to be struck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis_B Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Well the budget has already been allocated so Hicks and Gillett aren't directly involved at this stage and while Parry is as tight as a duck's arse, I doubt whether he has the authority to over-rule Rafa anymore. He's a bit of lame duck is Rick. But, if Parry has been tasked by Benitez to secure the transfers of Barry and Keane within the constraints of that budget, wouldn't this be the tactics he would employ? I'm sorry - I'm not sure what you are getting at. Please clarify. You said that the reason for Liverpool's bids being below Villa's price is a question of differing valuations; that if Benitez felt that Barry was worth £18 million he would, in effect, order Parry to pay it and get the deal done. My point was that, given the budget that you say has been set by Hicks and Gillette, and the apparent twin targets of Keane and Barry, would Benitez have said to Parry "use that budget to get me these 2 players"? And would Parry have tried his best to get the price down, regardless of Benitez's opinions on the players value? The budget isn't that rigid though with players coming in and going out for various amounts. There are other targets that need to be budgeted for besides Barry and Keane. We've just spent £3m on a reserve keeper - we could have economised on the likes of Antti Niemi and allocated that money to the Barry deal. Redman you could have economised further by keeping a keeper you wanted to sell to us for £10m but let go for £3.5 to the Boggies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VillaGoMarching Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 I think there's a very good chance Barry will start a climb down come september 1st, only thing is, i think he may struggle to get in the side by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smetrov Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Yes - we need a right back \goalkeeper\ right midfielder this would give us the right back - and the funds to get 2 more players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briny_ear Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Yes - we need a right back \goalkeeper\ right midfielder this would give us the right back - and the funds to get 2 more players I voted yes just because I want this saga to end - there is a risk it will start to be a major distraction as we prepare for the new season. And we would have forced the Redscum to come up with 70 or 80% more than their original offer depending on how you value Finnan, which is not a bad result. I certainly don't think we need to accept the bid to enable us to buy new players. Does that mean you think that if we hadn't sold him we would not have been able to buy any players this summer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoony Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 i'd taxi Barry to the thieving Spaniards, snap fattie's arm of up to about his shoulder and, in proper Liverpool style, nick his car and bugger off as soon as practically possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante_Lockhart Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Yes. Easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamboMcInally Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Yes - we need a right back \goalkeeper\ right midfielder this would give us the right back - and the funds to get 2 more players This is exactly the reason I voted yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjw63 Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Get rid. Cash in. Move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o'malley Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Yeah, take it. This thing needs to be sorted out, it's dragged out waaaay too long. We've made the point, not caved in and Finnan's value is arguable, so we've got the price we wanted, give or take a few thousand. I don't get the "17m + Finnan or we've backed down" attitude, as the 1m valuation on Finnan is just a figure plucked out the air by the papers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astonbrookstreet Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Yes! They value him at £3m, we value him at £1m, split the difference, £16m + Finnan, at least it solves the right back and means we can still find another. It will put this unsavoury episode to bed, we have made our point and squeezed more out of them. In time im sure Barry will regret how he has gone about it, well if he has a sense of decency he will. Good bye and good riddance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenz Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 No..... **** 'em. If they don't stump up, then whats the point of dragging our heels saying they know the valuation. Makes the club out to be smalltime IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingphil Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 To resolve our RB issue - then yes. I would also suggest a clause to prevent him playing against Villa in any competition this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roger_moore Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 i see the scousers are at it again..Pennant on the BBC saying how Robbie Keane and Torress would be the best partnership in the premiership...last I saw Keane was a Spurs player. Using your players in the press,to tap up other teams players- like Gerrard with Barry, shows a distict lack of class a a club - let Barry rot in the reserves..its the world cup in 2 years - he might want to play well you know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super-Villan Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 To resolve our RB issue - then yes. I would also suggest a clause to prevent him playing against Villa in any competition this season No, no, no. Apart from the fact that such a clause isn't legal, I want to see Barry have to face the fan's reaction when he returns to Villa Park. It's the least he deserves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isgill88 Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 i see the scousers are at it again..Pennant on the BBC saying how Robbie Keane and Torress would be the best partnership in the premiership...last I saw Keane was a Spurs player. Using your players in the press,to tap up other teams players- like Gerrard with Barry, shows a distict lack of class a a club - let Barry rot in the reserves..its the world cup in 2 years - he might want to play well you know! And like Gardner with Sidwell? Take your villa-tinted glasses off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted July 21, 2008 VT Supporter Share Posted July 21, 2008 No, offer him to Arse for 14-15 mil! Liverpool know the price and its 18 mil and not a penny less to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isgill88 Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 To resolve our RB issue - then yes. I would also suggest a clause to prevent him playing against Villa in any competition this season No, no, no. Apart from the fact that such a clause isn't legal, I want to see Barry have to face the fan's reaction when he returns to Villa Park. It's the least he deserves. You can have a gentlemans agreement, or at least thats what Man Utd seem to do. Tim Howard didn't play against them when he signed for Everton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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